Home > Novell and Ximian > Novell to Debut Server Linux Update Novell to Debut Server Linux Update Submitted by JB 2004-07-30 Novell and Ximian 8 Comments Novell plans to release a new version of its flagship server Linux product on Tuesday, built around a recent update to the core of the open-source operating system, sources said. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 8 Comments 2004-07-30 9:59 pm Announce on Friday and release on Tuesday, nice. Can’t wait to try this. wood 2004-07-31 12:51 am Not to troll, but I really wonder about this oft repeated claim. In what terms is SUSE really second only behind RH in terms of Linux distros? Are they referring to purely commercial distros? If so, maybe then I can see it (if by largest distros you mean largest companies backing them), but not if they mean all the installed base, particularly in the server market if you include distros like Debian and such. I just finished working at Sun doing their enterprise Linux support (now that’s another story ;-), and officially we would support RH and SUSE. A lot of people running RHEL in some form or other, very, very few running SUSE. I wonder if it’s maybe more wishful thinking on SUSE’s, and now Novell’s part, that they actually be the number two. I suspect the reality is actually rather different. Anyone care to correct me? 2004-07-31 1:32 am I wonder if it’s maybe more wishful thinking on SUSE’s, and now Novell’s part, that they actually be the number two. I suspect the reality is actually rather different. Anyone care to correct me? ———— in terms of commerical support only redhat and then suse counts. in terms of usage debian is right behind redhat atleast in web servers. suse is not the second most used distro if you count everything and not just commerical stuff 2004-07-31 1:45 am D’Arcy, I think your evaluation is quite correct. In fact, I encounter far more Mandrake boxes in the field than Suse boxes. If I had to rank them in number of deployed servers, my experience goes something like this: 1) Red Hat 2) Mandrake-Debian 3) Suse 4) Trustix, LFS or something similarly odd… Having said that, I wish Suse the best of luck, although I find $345 a year to be a little steep, particularly for smaller busineeses and non-profits. 2004-07-31 5:01 am I wonder if it’s maybe more wishful thinking on SUSE’s, and now Novell’s part, that they actually be the number two. I suspect the reality is actually rather different. Anyone care to correct me? ———— In my experience in Europe on installed server bases SUSE clearly the first RHEL is second…on desktops Mandrake is first SUSE second… 2004-07-31 4:39 pm >In my experience in Europe on installed server bases SUSE >clearly the first RHEL is second…on desktops Mandrake is >first SUSE second… In my experience (my company is specified in OSS in France) Debian and Red Hat share more than 90% of the market with Debian more than 50% (widely used by provider/hosting) The others are Mandrake, FreeBSD I didn’t see a Suse since 2 years. 2004-08-01 8:48 am I am not sure SuSE is second. In Europe, for instance, SuSe is the leader in both Desktop and Server areas (except in France where SuSe is far away from the Mandrake dominance) In USA Redhat is the leader, but Debian is the second. If you take a look on the Web Server Market share, you see : Redhat is about 60 % Debian is about 10 % SuSe is about 6 % Mandrake is about 1% So the hall of fames is : 1 – Redhat 2 – Debian 3- SuSE 2004-08-01 4:29 pm >If you take a look on the Web Server Market share I’m not sure that is an accurate representation of client base. There are so many computers providing heavy lifting in very large lan environments. Much of the heavy lifting was (and still is) done by novell’s netware. I’d say much more of it is now done by things like active directories and exchange or samba, ldap, kerberos and it’s cousins, than netware, but we’ll never know as there is no public facing front for us to establish a metric. The end of the internet is not the end of the world.