A new release candidate RC4 of NetBSD 2.0 has been tagged. The changes since RC3 include fixes for IP Filter (concerning IPv6 and better backwards compatibility with existing configurations), checksum processing for bridge interfaces, support for the Adaptec AAR 2810SA raid controller, linux compatibility and changes to the pagedaemon in order to improve performance under heavy disk load.
NetBSD 2.0 RC4 Tagged
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Does anyone have a pointer to an overview of the changes in the upcoming 2.0, compared to current 1.6.x release? There are some changelogs on the NetBSD site, but only detailed like 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 changes. 1.x -> 2.x reads as: major, structural changes. What are they?
Also on the feature list: clean design. I would read that, among other things, as: scalable? That it works on many embedded systems is clear, but how is the upcoming 2.0 doing on big iron? Can it USE 2, 8 or 128 CPU’s? Anyone got some quick info on that?
Anyway, I think NetBSD is a cool project. Not using it myself, but it occupies its own, unique place in the OS landscape. I hope we’ll see more of it (and I’m sure we will, in some way or another).
Does anyone running NetBSD’s RCs can tell me if OpenBSD’s PF is available by default? If yes, have you experianced any issues yet ?
I think NetBSD 2.0 will rock
Not using it myself yet, but performance-wise I expect it to be something between FreeBSD 5.x and 4.x on sincle processor machines. It may get popular until DragonflyBSD gets stable.
Chapter 2. New features in NetBSD 2.0
http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-whatsnew.html
Bruno
how many NetBSD RCs are planned anyway??? Can anyone comment on how it runs on G3 hardware versus Linux?
Hi,
if you are interested in ISO-Images for RC4, grab them here:
http://netbsd.student.utwente.nl/NetBSD-2.0_RC4-iso/
Alpha and Sparc64 are not there because we build them right now. The box that serves the Images crossbuilds them in the background (nice -n19) and it’s only a 700MHz AMD.
Maybe you want to join #netbsd/IRCNet to say “ascent” a thank you for bandwidth/CPU-time
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Karsten ‘tecneeq’ Kruse
That is hopefully the last RC. If there are no showstopper-bugs discovered in one or two weeks it goes gold.
Does anyone have a pointer to an overview of the changes in the upcoming 2.0, compared to current 1.6.x release? There are some changelogs on the NetBSD site, but only detailed like 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 changes. 1.x -> 2.x reads as: major, structural changes. What are they?
A short summary of changes can be found in:
http://www.netbsd.org/guide/en/chap-whatsnew.html
A bit more extensive overview:
ftp://ftp.fr.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/netbsd-2-0/200410070000/i…
Does anyone running NetBSD’s RCs can tell me if OpenBSD’s PF is available by default? If yes, have you experianced any issues yet ?
For NetBSD 2.0 pf is available through pkgsrc as a LKM. NetBSD-current has pf in-tree besides ipf.
Can anyone comment on how it runs on G3 hardware versus Linux?
I haven’t given it more than a cursory glance, but from what I’ve seen, NetBSD and Linux perform about the same on G3 hardware. In terms of desktop performance, they’re comparable (I don’t know if NetBSD uses the latest Xfree86/X.org, however). In terms of server perforamance, there’s not much to tell them apart.
Of course, if you need high-performance computing and every possible % of performance, you don’t want to use a G3. And, if it helps, on G3/G4/G5 hardware, Linux is more popular and better supported.
Does anyone have a pointer to an overview of the changes in the upcoming 2.0, compared to current 1.6.x release? There are some changelogs on the NetBSD site, but only detailed like 1.6.1 -> 1.6.2 changes. 1.x -> 2.x reads as: major, structural changes. What are they?
They announced long ago that the first version with decent SMP support (on i386) would be called 2.0.
One great thing for me it’s SMBFS support from the kernel, maybe i’m not using the right words sorry…afaik it was taken from freebsd directly.
I’m going to do a network install with only two floppies
(really really one nice thing about all the BSDs).
I saw that I can use X from the install and that X is part of the netbsd sources.
1)
But I also saw that XFree864.4 is in pkgsrc, could you elaborate it more ?
2)
Suppose I do a NetBSD2 install with X.
Then to install gnome 2.8 I only have to download the pkgsrc tree and make install the meta-pkgs/gnome2 right ?
No needs to install Xfree864.4 packages ?
(I checked the dependicies and it seems so, just wanted to be sure)
3)
This is maybe relative to pkgsrc and not netbsd, sorry about that.
Can I choose to compile gnome2.8 with firefox instead of mozilla-gtk2 ?
I don’t want to compile mozilla if i’m not going to use it.
Also with futures upgrades it will keep up-to-date mozilla-gtk and it’s a waste of time.
a typo:
meta-pkgs/gnome2 ==>> meta-pkgs/gnome
great i hope this is the last RC.
from http://www.netbsd.org/Hardware/pci.html
Silicon Image 3512 SATALink (satalink(4))
so it specifically mentions my serial ata controller, as well as others from SI … i’m looking fwd to making use of some new hardware … linux has generally failed to work well with this controller (sometimes doesn’t see drives, sometimes doesn’t install, sometimes doesn’t book, depending on distro).
good work.
does AmigaOS4(or any other version) have a java sdk?
Is NetBSD 2.0 supposed to be faster/more reliable/more secure than FreeBSD, with this 2.0 release? Is there a reason you would want to use NetBSD on a single CPU Intel server vs. FreeBSD?
Just wanting to know.
Thanks.
http://bulk.fefe.de/scalability/
quote “NetBSD now scales better than even FreeBSD 5!”
so netbsd contains many more scalable { O(1) or O{n) } algorithms than previously .. linux 2.6 is like this too .. but freebsd 4.x lacks a lot of these. frebsd 5.2.1 also has O(1/n) aims ..
“NetBSD again sets Internet2 Land Speed World Record (30 Sep)”
http://proj.sunet.se/LSR3-s/
http://proj.sunet.se/LSR3-m/
but you’ll mainly be interested in netbsd bause of its very clean and correct design. algorithms are correct by design, niot micro-optimised. clean design means porting to new technologies and platforms is simple.
frebsd 5.2.1 also has O(1/n) aims ..
O(1/n)?? Euh.. that’s VERY unlikely… 🙂
nah, I just want to squeeze every ounce of performance out of the G3 I do have. It’s a laptop so really it’ll just be a web terminal and mp3 player. I plan on having some word processor and thats about all she wrote.
I have a few dual boxes laying around the house can’t wait to play with the final release. I would love to see perfomrnace results from an 8-way or more NetBSD server. NetBSD is one of my favorite UNIX/UNIX like OS’s.
He probably ment O(1) and/or O(n).
It could be interesting to redo those tests when net2 and f5.3 will be released.