Home > Novell and Ximian > Novell- in competition with Red Hat Novell- in competition with Red Hat Submitted by maceto 2004-10-26 Novell and Ximian 16 Comments Novell tries to push SuSE server to Red Hat customers with the release of their latest PDF write up. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 16 Comments 2004-10-26 4:27 pm Why are Linux vendors attacking the market of other Linux vendors? They are fighting over a tiny piece of the pie. Fight for new turf. I think they need to concentrate of expansion of the market share, which will end up helping all of them. 2004-10-26 4:28 pm seems that Novell will not release NLD. is it true ? 2004-10-26 4:53 pm I think in the future were going to see Novell return to the powerhouse it use to be, and be a strong force in Linux adoption, even though right now they are attacking Redhat they are going to branch out to other customers. 2004-10-26 4:58 pm Where did you get that idea? 2004-10-26 5:33 pm Simpl, do you want to know why there are attacking? The reason is business. Linux is no more a hobbist OS or a hacker O/S. Now companies wants to make a lot of money on Linux, and this is the result. And there will be more players in the game. So let’s see what happens… 2004-10-26 6:15 pm This is truly great to see, if you step back and look at it. Two industry giants, duking it out, cutthroat competiton, with Linux!! This is a fair barometer to see that Linux has truly stepped up to the enterprise level and is doing quite well. 2004-10-26 7:25 pm [i]I think in the future were going to see Novell return to the powerhouse it use to be..[i] I almost spit my soda all over the place when i read this thanks for the laugh! Health competion in the major linux distro areana may be exactly what Linux needs. Don’t see how they can do it without using the closed source software advantage. 2004-10-26 7:46 pm That’s just yesterday news – I’ve been writing many times about the fact that “enterprise” Linux is just a tool to make money for corps, but reaction is always the same “microsoft fanboy” “troll” – now it’s time to wake up people, just browse the news title – “Red Hat Hit by Security Update Email Scam”, ” Novell- in competition with Red Hat” – GET THE FACTS! 2004-10-26 8:02 pm Novell has a clear made it’s position clear and that is to be an a complete enterpise solution provider using Linux. Currently they are offering a more complete package of solutions than redhat. Redhat has a big piece of the pie in the US when it comes to Linux, Suse has a huge presence in Germany. It seems only fitting that Novell target Redhat customers to establish it’s US market. It’s business! Might I add good for business, competition brings innovation. Open Enterprise Server from Novell will make a huge impact on both Microsoft and Redhat! 2004-10-26 9:36 pm There’s much more money to be had by targetting Windows. 2004-10-26 9:40 pm That’s just yesterday news – I’ve been writing many times about the fact that “enterprise” Linux is just a tool to make money for corps, —- I am not sure your argument is related to the above news. Linux vendors compete with each other just like any other competitors. this isnt something unique to linux, enterprise linux, software or whatever. this is just the way market place behaves in any industry. If you think enterprise linux is just a tool to make money. that might well be true. it saves money for a lot of people. that creates a better economy too. if you mean just the vendor side you might want to try and accomodate userlinux(.com) and CAOS (caosity.org ) into your persisting vision. “Red Hat Hit by Security Update Email Scam” how does this really prove your point. Some guys tried to fake a update from redhat and got caught. How does this prove that enterprise linux vendors are after money?. of course they need money like any other business. whats wrong with making money? 2004-10-26 10:05 pm No, i think you’re not right. Competition between Linux companies will make it even better. Novell attacks Red Hat, Red Hat has to act now, maybe Red Hat has to improve. The important thing are the combined basics and standards *and* the competition. 2004-10-27 1:14 am I work at a small insurance company in a small country, and there is one of the insurance companies, the biggest one, which holds approxmiately 80% of the market, and 4 or 5 others which share the rest. I remember talking to the marketing executive and he was talking about how all the startups would go shoppin for clients from the big guys, because that is how you are most likely to get a large number. If anything, Novell and Redhat should work together better, and make sure they move forward and take the market from Microsoft. A lot of Redhat customers already jumped ship from elsewhere, and unlikely to want to move to Novell. Look for clients who have had their system for a long time, and are thinking of getting new hardwae and software, and you are more likely to find someone willing to defect. And I am generally suspicious of anyone who tries too hard to convince me that cost is all there is to business. There are other facets that are much more important. Novell needs to go for the jugular if it wants to taste victory. Go for Microsoft customers, not try to piggyback on redhat’s success, otherwise they will be condemned to be a follower. 2004-10-27 2:36 pm Maynard, from a objective perpective it will better if Novell go for Microsoft, from a business perspective, it’s easier to go for Red Hat. So, what do you is going to see in the future, Linux vs Linux, andm May be more than Linux vs. Microsoft…IMHO 2004-10-27 3:28 pm Attacking Red Hat’s market share is the smart thing to do to beef up revenue quickly. Novell is not in it for Linux, but for their bottom line, which is a good thing, IMHO. By attacking RH’s customers, they don’t have to deal with the challenge of convincing customer to switch from MS to Linux, but from one Linux vendor to another, much easier sell. – Kelson 2004-10-27 8:56 pm How do you think it is easier. Redhat’s customers likely just moved from another platform to Redhat. So why would they switch so quickly. There are considerable costs associated with switching, and you generally do the switch when it would cause least pain, which usually is when you are replacing hardware, or you are upgrading to a new version of say Oracle. The hassle and expense of just switching for the sake of switching makes it just not worth it.