Home > Solaris > Open Solaris and strategic consequences Open Solaris and strategic consequences Eugenia Loli 2005-03-02 Solaris 16 Comments There are people who believe in the doctrine of social or historical inevitability: that, when the time is right and no earlier, several people will independently invent what turns out to be a crucial new technology. Read more of the editorial here. About The Author Eugenia Loli Ex-programmer, ex-editor in chief at OSNews.com, now a visual artist/filmmaker. Follow me on Twitter @EugeniaLoli 16 Comments 2005-03-02 7:36 pm I fail to understand why would Java be a collateral victim in this war. 2005-03-02 7:52 pm I agree… I don’t see why the diminishing role of Windows (as mentioned in the article) should have a negative effect on Java. Actually, with several Unices (OpenSolaris, Linux, BSD, …) on several CPUs (x86-64, POWER, SPARC) around and on the rise, having code run on the JVM/Java Platform is a benefit. 2005-03-02 8:08 pm There is no such thing. Still. 2005-03-02 8:48 pm “There is no such thing. Still.” Ben Rockwood posted screenshots of OpenSolaris (he is a pilot program member) at his blog a while back (www.cuddletech.com). The public release is in June, I think. Unless you are willing to call everyone in the pilot program a liar, the odds are very good OpenSolaris is real and on it’s way. There’s even http://www.opensolaris.org to tease you for the next few months. 2005-03-02 9:13 pm Ooooh-weee. Screenshots. That’s really progress. 2005-03-02 9:16 pm His point is that it’s not here yet. Just because you can see the airplane on the radar screen and it’s on approach doesn’t mean that it will land safely. I will hold judgement until July. Just to see if it is a nice graceful landing or a fiery crash. 2005-03-02 10:09 pm I fail to understand why would Java be a collateral victim in this war. Yes, this sounds strange, especially as the article talked about the role of java in the data center. If it had been on the desktop I would have understood it, as java on Linux only works satisfactory with US key boards. (See Bug 4799499) Perhaps, they auther means that just because java is useless for the Linux desktop, it is useless for the server center. I think not. But it may reduce the number of available developers, as people that start program for Linux quick learns that java is cross platform only as long as you run it on windows. 2005-03-02 10:17 pm IBM is effectively taking over Linux, not through ownership but by influencing the influencers: manipulating the people and press involved in guiding its use, evolution and acceptance. Linux, the kernel, is not “owned” by any single individual, as that it is released under the GNU GPL. If I wanted to fork the Linux kernel, I could and IBM has no relevant influence over me. 2005-03-02 11:13 pm Yup, no OpenSolaris yet. They still haven’t got it to the state that they’re willing to release it yet to the masses (beyond the snippet of DTrace). There is, however, no-cost Solaris 10, which for a VAST VAST majority of the users of Solaris is essentially the same thing. But that’s OK, the Sun Naysayers will no doubt find something else to complain about when they do release it. No worries. 2005-03-02 11:20 pm We are in the Pilot as are many others with the ODW. http://metadistribution.org/blog/ Things are moving along. R&B 2005-03-03 1:00 am Isn’t this guy a little old for all the wild speculation and conspiracies? 2005-03-03 1:31 am >But that’s OK, the Sun Naysayers will no doubt find >something else to complain about when they do release it. >No worries. I’ll start off. How about not talking about it in the present tense like they have for months? It doesn’t exist. 2005-03-03 4:15 am The market is split into two camps, the UNIX (incl. BSD and Linux) with Java in one camp, and Windows with .net on the other. On one side, you have a technology which allows all the UNIX to talk and share data with each other, the other side, you have Windows with a piece of technology riddled with more patents than Amazons online check out setup. Which ever UNIX wins, will end up hurting Microsoft in the long run, be it Solaris, Linux, BSD or what ever. The underlying fact remains, people have flirted with Windows, with the attrocious idea of fat clients, and the innevitable costs that come with it, and now are moving back to a more centralised system. It took 10 years, but IT and busines are finally realising that a “PC on every desktop”, only benefits one company, and it certainly ain’t them, thats for sure. 2005-03-03 5:45 pm I agree. thin-clients rock. 2005-03-03 8:44 pm OpenSolaris _does_ exist. Just repeating that it doesn’t doesn’t make that true. Sun did the CDDL over the last two months. They floated out DTrace as a baby step. They put up their website (www.opensolaris.org). They have a big pilot program working out the kinks (I’m not a member, but there are tons of blogs, even from outside of Sun). Their PR machine is redlining, too. For them to do all of this and not release OpenSolaris in June would make no sense whatsoever. Sun is a company that thinks in the long term (Solaris/Java/SPARC), not just what people will think this season. 2005-03-03 8:52 pm As gthe previous poster stated, OpenSolaris does exist. You just don’t yet have access to the source code.