SUSE‘s 10.0 release announcmeent has barely hit all four corners of the globe, but development for 10.1 is already underway, and alpha 1 is now available. The biggest changes since 10.0 are a new kernel (2.6.13.2) and KDE 3.5 Beta 1. Download locations can be found in the release announcement.
According to Distrowatch, this release will spend about four and a half months from alpha1 to rc1 (2/16/06), and then probably another month or so until final RTM. This is quite a long test cycle, don’t you think?
well they have to wait till kde4 stable to come out 1st before they can even start testing
It’s highly unlikely that OpenSuSE 10.1 will ship with KDE 4.
You probably shouldn’t expect KDE 4 to be out sooner than next summer/fall (SUSE 10.2). The KDE developers don’t seem to be rushing it, which IMO is a good thing. KDE 4 will have more than just some new features. It will be using the new version of Qt which means that a bit of porting needs to be done from the current Qt.
I think KDE 3.5 will have a few hints about what they want to do with KDE 4, but the developers will probably be somewhat limited with the implementation until everything is moved over to the new version of Qt.
Personally, I’m more excited about the possibility of seeing Reiser4 in the 2.6.15 kernel, but that might not be a possibility until SUSE 10.2 either.
Does anyone know if there’ll be a KDE 3.5.1 & 3.5.2 in the interim before KDE 4 ??
The KDE developers hadn’t originally planned on making 3.5, but since x.x.1/x.x.2 versions include bug fixes, you’ll probably see one or two. The developers intend for 3.5 to be as solid as possible before releasing it, but there are generally one or two things that pop up after a release.
Thanks Hands, Bryan & Superstoned – that clears it up nicely.
There will definitely be bug-fix releases, where necessary. There might even by a KDE 3.6; KDE4 will take at least a year to develop, maybe more, and they might do a bit for the 3.x branch to keep things going.
It isn’t a long cycle. First, alphas aren’t test builds. Alphas are development builds. That means that for about the next 4 months (from now until January 19th), Suse is in DEVELOPMENT. After that, it goes into the beta/testing phase although more and more companies have been doing more and more development in the beta phase. If you have run Gnome on the Suse betas, you would have noticed very different package selections each time you installed.
This alpha release isn’t much. Ubuntu releases their stuff a couple weeks after a release too, but it doesn’t resemble what the product will become through the development process.
This is a little off topic, but why does the article say “SUSE’s 10.0 release announcement has barely hit all four corners of the globe”? Suse 10 isn’t to be released for about another week (October 6th).
“This is quite a long test cycle, don’t you think?”
As long as they iron out all the bugs, I don’t mind at all
SUSE’s 10.0 release announcmeent has barely hit all four corners of the globe
Sorry, does this mean suse 10 is out? I can’t seem to find any announcement.
Its release has been announced for early October.
At http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/16017.html , it says that shipping will begin tomorrow, Sept 30.
Well….no….it’s the normal test cycle…it’s just public now. With 10.0 they started the public part in the beta stage. From what I understand they have traditionally already been working on the next alpha at the release time of the current version…the BETA stage is about 6 to 8 weeks, which is what you might be referring to. I wouldn’t touch an alpha release for any of my other than STRICTLY test machines with a 10 foot pole.
About KDE4….not really. If it’s out in time, the’ll put it in…if it isn’t, it will be KDE 3.5. They don’t “have” to wait for anything. My feeling is that KDE 4 will be delayed a bit anyway since it’s such a major jump. We’ll see…
I have ordered 10.0 and will install it next week…I’m running beta 4 now on this machine and it’s been great!
This might seem like a stupid question, but what’s the main (ideological) difference between Suse and OpenSuse?
with suse you will get technic support, book and some proprietary software…
so is kde 3.5 a alpha version of kde 4.0 ?
so is kde 3.5 a alpha version of kde 4.0 ?
No, it’s planned to be the last release in the 3.x series, with some improvements over 3.4.
Really looking forward to the SUSE 10 release. The RC seemed to have fix every bug in my current 9.3 installation (ACPI not working, SaX2 going crazy, to name a few) but introduced one very severe new one: network (wireless and wired both) didn’t work. So I have great hopes for the 10.0 final.
Has anyone tried the performance/minimal Suse 10 SLICK beta yet? – I’m happily using a Suse 10 SUPER beta (which is nice
), however the recent SLICK .iso freezes near the end of the initial post-install at:
Suse.config.prelinking
from what I remember – it’s frustrating because it’s right near the end of the initial post-installation process.
Anyone have any ideas, or has tried this .iso.
With SuSE and Ubuntu both coming out with new releases this Fall, my test partition will get quite a workout.
That APM will start working in the final of 10. It worked fine in 9.3 on my Dell 5150, but on 10 RC1 I couldn’t get it to do anything, not even display my battery status. I ordered it anyways, we’ll see. I’ve been using SuSE sine 8.0
That APM will start working in the final of 10. It worked fine in 9.3 on my Dell 5150, but on 10 RC1 I couldn’t get it to do anything, not even display my battery status. I ordered it anyways, we’ll see. I’ve been using SuSE sine 8.0
Did you file a bug report?
Novell should just fold up tent – Red Hat has so obviously locked up the enterprise market. It’s all over… does anyone else see it differently.
Sorry, but that’s a stupid comment. That would be like saying “Microsoft has so obviously locked up the desktop market. It’s all over… does anyone else see it differently?”
Competition_is_good_for_everybody!
That’s gotta be in the top 5 of “dumbest posts” that I’ve ever read on here, and there’s been alot of competition. SuSE is one of THE BEST distros out there, and will continue to be one of the top distros for a very long time to come.
On the contrary, Novell/Suse are only just finding their feet regards the enterprise “Linux” space… – to my eyes desktop & server “Linux” is still in it’s infancy….. admitedly, RedHat has established an early foothold (and has done some good work, kudos to RedHat), whereas Novell is still positioning itself in terms of it’s products and branding (and mindshare). I’d also doubt very much that IBM would be happy with only one premier enterprise Linux outfit…. no, IBM will want to make sure that a variety of enterprise players are moving forward “from all angles” covering a variety of niches.
Novell should just fold up tent – Red Hat has so obviously locked up the enterprise market. It’s all over… does anyone else see it differently.
Red Hat should just fold up tent – Microsoft has so obviously locked up the enterprise market. It’s all over… does anyone else see it differently.
Not trying to be a troll, and I don’t agree with my comment, just showing the original posted how trollish and stupid he sounds.
Ever heard of a word called competition? Red Hat was barely a blip on the radar 6 years ago, and now they are doing pretty good. The same could happen for Novell. Novell has increased SLES sales since aquiring SUSE, and they will probably continue to increase them more.
Should Mandriva, Xandros and others fold up tent too?
No, I don’t agree. I came from the Red Hat side…and liked the SUSE way much better. I think that they still have a chance at this even at the enterprise level. If things get rough, I would hope that the SUSE line continues somehow even if Novell folds the tent, but right now I think it’s WAY too early for talk like that, but of course, it’s important to keep on the back of the mind….nothing is guaranteed in this crazy world.
its VERY VERY unlikely there won’t be any 3.5.x releases… it will take at least 7-8 months from 3.5 to 4, and usually the KDE team comes up with a point release every 6-8 weeks.
SUSE need to have Resier4 for the 10.2 release, a next -gen filesystem to fight Longhorn with.
which means they need to get Reiser4 into 10.1 because i doubt any sane distro producer would shift the default file-system to a totally new system without having it as an option in the preceding release to test the waters.
here’s hoping the kernel devs and hans work out the problems so that Resier4 can be included in the kernel in time for it being a usable option in 10.1.
Why?
Fight Longhorn, I don’t think file systems like ext3 have to worry about Longhorn.
Not saying that ricer4 wont be a bad thing, but I think your looking at it the wrong way
SUSE need to have Resier4 for the 10.2 release, a next -gen filesystem to fight Longhorn with.
which means they need to get Reiser4 into 10.1 because i doubt any sane distro producer would shift the default file-system to a totally new system without having it as an option in the preceding release to test the waters.
here’s hoping the kernel devs and hans work out the problems so that Resier4 can be included in the kernel in time for it being a usable option in 10.1.
This is the great thing about Open Source. If Hans and the kernel devs don’t work out there differences, Novell can simply just include Reiser4 in their own distro. It’s not like they have to ask Linus’ permission. Red Hat heavily modifies their kernels to fit their customers’ needs, Novell can do the same.
Proving your point: SuSE 9.3 supports the Reiser4 fs! (I can’t remember if it is a default package or if you have to explicitly choose it)
That said, I still haven’t got any Reiser4 partitions, they are all Reiser3 (the SuSE 9.3 default).
Yeah, reiser4 is in suse 9.3 default package.
I’m running it on reiser4 root (this required small fix in initrd) and home partitions without any problems.
I would’t say “supports” until the installer allows you to create and format reiser4 file systems, which it doesn’t. There is a big difference between “support” and having just a reiser4 package in your software repository.
SuSE has its own, heavily modified kernel ever since…
Hmm Novell means apparantly serious business.Just look at all the new features that make part of SuSE 10.Earlier release shifts didn’t bring that much news with them and the overall layout from the box upto the software itself seems to be more polished.
Suse is shipped with mono,another reason to stick with kubuntu or mandriva
Suse is shipped with mono,another reason to stick with kubuntu or mandriva
Or else you could just *gasp* choose not to install it! There is even a screen in the install part of SUSE where you can choose what to install, right down to the libraries. If you didn’t like Firefox, would you stick with a distro that didn’t ship it? Or would you, like most other people that actually have some level of intellect, just install some other browser?
Oh, btw, Ubuntu is going to be shipping Beagle in their online repos…which runs on Mono! Suppose its time to drop Kubuntu and just stick with Mandriva for the time being eh?
Oh…uh…yeah…that makes sense. That the *(&? do you mean? Geez..you don’t have to INSTALL mono if you have some religious idiological stance about it. Comments like that are useless…
I’ve got the latest KDE, the latest Xine/Mplayer, the latest Linux kernel…..sorry but distro news no longer excites me, I go directly to the project source and get the updates.
If I need a new version of Firefox, I’m not waiting for SuSe or Redhat or Fedora or Ubuntu, I’m going straight to mozilla.org
Reading news about new distributions is about as interesting as reading Freshmeat announcements.
I’ve got the latest KDE, the latest Xine/Mplayer, the latest Linux kernel…..sorry but distro news no longer excites me, I go directly to the project source and get the updates.
If I need a new version of Firefox, I’m not waiting for SuSe or Redhat or Fedora or Ubuntu, I’m going straight to mozilla.org
Reading news about new distributions is about as interesting as reading Freshmeat announcements.
I’m happy for you, just like I’m happy for people whom have the option of having all those pieces of software bundled into a distro for easier use. To each his own.
Just a question though…if news like this is so boring, wouldn’t it be easier to simply not read or comment on it?
while the above points are lovely, Resier4 needs to be a standard selectable fully working file-system option available on install.
and it needs this for at least one release before making it the default file-system choice.
thus SUSE 10.1 must have full support for R4.
and 10.2 must have R4 as the default option based off extensive user testing proving that it is stable enough for the big-time.