Mad Penguin has released a lengthy review of OpenSUSE 10 complete with screenshots and Flash movie of the installation process.
MadPenguin’s First Look at OpenSUSE 10
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Great review. Well done…SuSe is one of the things that makes this country great. Sure, its from Germany…but come on. This is exactly the type of distro we need in these days when so many things are dissapointing. For example, Velociraptors may suck at disembowling things. What?!? When I was a kid, we knew how things worked…we knew that Linux was small and rather useless..we knew that Tivo wasn’t a word and we knew that Velociraptors could rip your guts out from 12 paces. However, now all these things are being challenged, so its nice to see a company like SuSe (Novell) continuing their great reputation for excellence. God Bless Them…God Bless Them All.
You sir, need a girlfriend ;^)
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Exellent review.I agree with the author that the lack of propietary multimedia formats needs more attention in general.I’m certainly willing to pay more if Novell would iclude them.SuSE 10 is very slick and wellthought.
You sir, need a girlfriend ;^)
Thanks for the offer but i’m dire straight.
I notice he doesn’t point out how badly the fonts suck, particularly the serif fonts. Letters and bits of letters squashed together, the wrong bits emphasised (like the top loop of a capital B), lack of symmetry in letters that should be symmetrical like capital Ts and Is, serifs too big for the letter, that sort of thing. Microsoft and Apple can develop decent font rendering technology, what’s holding up the people responsible for it on Linux?
The only time I see/saw a problem with fonts is when I tried messing with the resolutions and hit an odd number that my monitor didn’t like.
That might help you out.
Microsoft and Apple can develop decent font rendering technology, what’s holding up the people responsible for it on Linux?
Oh, nothing, just this little thing called “patents” and “legal threats”. Or haven’t you read the thing on Freetype’s site about Apple and software patents?
http://freetype.sourceforge.net/patents.html
Why do your fonts look so bad? I’ve been using SUSE since 9,1 and the fonts look great…as a matter of fact, it seems to me that all of the fonts are so nice that Windows fonts look bad now to me….
I’ve seen bad fonts…usually if I boot into a Knoppix DVD or CD…I see bad fonts…but in SUSE they are smooth as silk. I do download and install the ttf package, however and use a lot of those fonts….but they are available and work well.
I just migrated away from fedora to Suse.
I really like it. I like the centralized management. My grandma likes it too.(mainly because it boots a little faster than fedora)
But it’s very well polished, and very easy to pick up.
As the reviewer noted, packman is the only third party making rpm’s. That’s been my only problem. I miss the availability of fedora’s yum to third parties.
Packman is not the only one. There are other repos as well. See
http://www.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
And at ftp://ftp4.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/10.0-i386/ you find other apt repos for unstable KDE and a lot of other stuff.
Guru’s RPM-Site is another source for SuSE-RPMs:
http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/index.php
You could also use apt to install packages from packman, guru and a few others. This wiki was written for SuSE 9.3 but you just need to change “SuSE/9.3-i386” into “SuSE/10.0-i386” and it should work with 10.0 too.
http://susewiki.org/index.php?title=Apt_on_SuSe_9.3_X86_i586
Too bad packman’s and guru’s repositories won’t work with apt’s gpg-checker therefore you may need to temporarily disable gpg-checking.
Yes they did:-)
The retail version of SuSE 10 contains yum,you can install it via Yast.
@@linux:~> yum
You need to give some command
usage: yum [options] < update | install | info | remove | list |
clean | provides | search | check-update | groupinstall |
groupupdate | grouplist | groupinfo | groupremove |
makecache | localinstall | erase | upgrade | whatprovides |
localupdate | resolvedep | shell | deplist >
options:
-h, –help show this help message and exit
-t, –tolerant be tolerant of errors
-C run entirely from cache, don’t update cache
-c [config file] config file location
-R [minutes] maximum command wait time
-d [debug level] debugging output level
-e [error level] error output level
-y answer yes for all questions
–version show Yum version and exit
–installroot=[path] set install root
–enablerepo=[repo] enable one or more repositories (wildcards allowed)
–disablerepo=[repo] disable one or more repositories (wildcards allowed)
–exclude=[package] exclude package(s) by name or glob
–obsoletes enable obsoletes processing during updates
–noplugins disable Yum plugins
I forgot to mention that you should not use apt to update the kernel, xorg or yast. Besides that apt is a great package manager on SuSE Linux too.
Is it possible to Simply install usng install CD (single CD) like kubuntu ?? and later add all packages from internet or mounted iso files ???
yes, there is something called SUPER and SLICK. these are suse-based distros (available on opensuse.org) that focus on performance and they are distributed on only one CDs. however, i noticed they are quite buggy (RC’s were)
“Is it possible to Simply install usng install CD (single CD) like kubuntu ?? and later add all packages from internet or mounted iso files ???”
http://www.opensuse.org/Released_Version
There’s an internet installation boot-image, too.
Adam did another great job reviewing this distribution release by covering several aspects both new and updated for SUSE Linux. I do have a few minor issues with this release and I hope Novell is listening.
1. Codecs:
Either find a way to legally offer licensed codecs or at least stop crippling front end players like Kaffeine for those that wish to install codecs, even open source ones.
2. Default video player:
I really don’t understand the reasoning behind packaging two Xine front end players (ie: Kaffeine) with the distribution that don’t even integrate with either the default browser or the others offered with the distribution. A tip for Novell is to offer one player and provide that is ready from the start. Meaning I open the browser such as Firefox and am able to play a movie trailer in my browser with out being asked to open the player seperately. MPlayer is the easiest to set up on distributions both in respect to offering the widest player support for codecs and integrated with browsers such as Firefox and Konqueror.
3. Default audio player:
Amarok is set up as the default audio player in the start menu and is the closest audio player to iTunes. So why when installing a music CD does SUSE Linux ask if I want “KsCD” opened? Amarok offers wider support for playing audio codecs and is more updated than KsCD which cannot sync with portable players like Apple’s iPod which Amarok can. My suggestion to Novell is remove “KsCD” from the default installation.
Other than those gripes I have about SUSE Linux 10.0 I am really enjoying the distribution. Which finally is able to properly detect on install my Daytek/Daewoo monitors. Even my Logitech Quickcam Orbit is listed in GnomeMeeting (for Windows users it’s like NetMeeting) though I’m still having difficulty getting this working properly. Once I get that working I’ll be happy. Even happier since reading that the KDE developers are working on having Kopete for KDE 3.5 to finally work with MSN Messenger Webcam/VOIP.
software managment is gross. Updating and installing software on Suse is a nightmare.
->sticking to my Gentoo<-
Ah, but compiling from source isn’t exactly everybody’s cup of tea either. Each to their own
For those of you complaining about fonts (and equally for those of you saying that fonts look ok in SuSE 9), that’s because something got badly broken in SuSE 10. In 9.x everything looked great. Fonts worked beautifully. But in SuSE 10 they are a disaster.
Not upgrading to 10 until this gets fixed. Fonts on Linux (speaking from a RedHat background) were always so ugly, one of the most offputting things – made even the most attractive website look terrible. When I upgraded to SuSE, it was such a relief to see it done properly. Smooth fonts working properly everywhere. SuSE really need to fix this font problem that they introduced in SuSE 10, no way I want to go back to the days of RedHat 6 fonts.
For those of you complaining about fonts (and equally for those of you saying that fonts look ok in SuSE 9), that’s because something got badly broken in SuSE 10.
What are those complaints? And what is it that’s supposed to be broken?
Fonts look great on the two SuSE 10 installations I’ve done, if anything anti-aliasing has improved since 9.3.
In my experience the sans fonts on 10 are mostly perfect. It’s the serif fonts which are awful. All of them, and they haven’t always been <em>this</em> awful.
I’m sorry but I’m just not seeing it. Serif fonts look fine to me. Am I missing something or is this all just speculation from people who haven’t used v10? Just guessing because they all look good here and a few people are basically saying the same. Not sure if the review has any serif fonts in screenshots but it might be worth a look…