Linked by Eugenia Loli on Tue 7th Mar 2006 01:37 UTC, submitted by Valour
Gentoo "It's been a while since I last reviewed Gentoo Linux because there haven't been too many significant changes in the past few releases. I've been using it as my primary desktop operating system for a year and a half, though, and I've been running my main Web/email/database server on it since October of 2004. There's a reason why I've stayed with it that long, both as a desktop and server OS - and there's also a reason why I'm writing a review of the 2006.0 release after a long hiatus from Gentoo reviews." More here.
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Angel--Fr@gzill@
Member since:
2005-12-23

!!!!! RR4 - gentoo based

I have tried it and it's very good and cool.

But I think its comppiled for a 586, so in theory it won't be as quick as Gentoo... Isn't it ???

On the other hand I remeber have read in several Post in the Web, something about the compilers in gentoo, and other stuff... (don't remember what), that make that the distro finally installed is NOT as quick as it should be theoretically.

And that finally its not quicker than debian.
Some of them said they had moved to debian; that the speed was the same than in gentoo, so , Why spend so long compiling to get the same results ???

Anyone have any info, idea about that ???

Rational, informative anwsers, please.. Not flames, of Gentoo priests telling me is not true, and that I will burn forever in the linux hell...

Why and how.. ???

Thanks

Angel

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Moocha Member since:
2005-07-06

Why do you pay attention to arguments a la "X is better than Y" when it's obvious from the context that people are making emotional rather than rational decisions?
Just try all options and keep what *feels* better to you. This way you won't be disappointed.
For reference, I've been running Gentoo both on my desktop and on several production and mission-critical servers since mid-2003. Never looked back. But that's because it's a distribution that fits me. Do the same - trial and error, while lengthly, will result in the best distribution for you.

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gpierce Member since:
2005-07-07

Agreed. There is no reason to follow the online bickering about whose linux distro is superior or faster. If you are going to compare distros you really need to do it on exactly the same hardware and my suspicion is that there just won't be that much of a detectable difference between any of them. This isn't the Windows world where OEMs pack so much useless advertising and unwanted services on the desktops of new computers that suck cpu cycles from what you actually want your machine to do.

I have to always remind myself of hardware differences when I get a little annoyed with my older 1.5GHz Dell (used to have Win Me) with a P4 (but without hyperthreading--I think). My IBM T43 with Ubuntu seems much snappier but it's really not comparable.

Compiling all the software on my computer is still fun for me. But it does come with some drawbacks. For example, a great deal of caution has to be used when including global use flags. Just recently, I spent almost a whole week looking for why networking suddenly stopped working after a recompile of my whole system following a compiler upgrade. The misbehaving package was dhcpcd, the default dhcp client on Gentoo. At some point I put in "debug" in global USE flags and dhcpcd would hang at boot...just hang! Not fail! I couldn't even get to the command line. I used the livecd to correct things. I now know how to specify use flags only for certain packages. Anyway, this experience does point out one of the pitfalls in a system like Gentoo where all the controls are handed to the user. There are so many packages that even an experienced Linux user can not reasonably be expected to know when he might be headed for trouble.

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superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

gentoo has the theoretical advantage of compiling the whole bunch of software specifically for your computer. and you could prevent stuff you don't need from installing and compiling in. and you could optimize packages individually. and easily add unstable stuff to test it (eg you can do 'emerge kopete' and portage will get the latest subversion checkout of kopete and compile it - you can't get more up-to-date, nor easier...).

on the other hand, you WONT have time nor knowledge to optimize it all to the max, while the debian mantainers, having years experience in optimizing and sending in patches if it doesnt work, CAN and DO optimize stuff more than you would.

so in practice, most gentoo users won't get their system much faster than a debian OS.
and with checkinstall and a BIT more work, you can get the latest SVN from kopete yourself...

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gpierce Member since:
2005-07-07

I think you are definitely correct. Knowing how to extract the most out of any program (compiling with the right USE flags and optimizations) is nearly impossible for anyone user to do correctly for each package on his system, and this is where the strength of systems like Debian which have experienced package maintainers that wrap things up in nicely digestible .debs lies.

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jaypee Member since:
2005-07-28

@ Angel--Fr@gzill@

RR4 is a good idea but, when I tried it, it felt it too limiting (of course, it could have just been me). For some reason, I couldn't do an "emerge -uD world". It would fail.

However, I did find that Kororaa (http://kororaa.org) is a quick way to install Gentoo, if you don't want to do a traditional Gentoo install. I put it on my laptop a little over a week ago and I am very happy with its performance.

Edited 2006-03-07 15:56

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