Linked by Kostis Kapelonis on Tue 14th Mar 2006 18:59 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces The desktop metaphor has served our computing needs well for the last decade. It has started however, to show its age over the last years. For office users it is still adequate but for everyone else it is often awkward and slow. Since a computer is no longer confined in the office, but in some cases serves also as the entertainment hub in our living rooms, new User Interfaces are required. In some areas the foundations are already in place while in others users are silently suffering every day, having to cope with inefficient and unproductive UIs.
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Krita and Koffice
by yokem55 on Tue 14th Mar 2006 19:43 UTC
yokem55
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2005-07-06

The author's jabs at Krita and Koffice are unfounded. Krita is NOT a gimp clone. Yes it has many of the same (and many more advanced) features, but it has been designed more for artistic painting, not raster image editing. The difference to those that aren't familiar with graphics programs may seem silly, but it does make a big difference to those used to professional tool sets. While Krita can and is used for image editing, that isn't its primary purpose, and to claim that it is merely reinventing the wheel does a great discredit to the hard work of Boudewijn Rempt and all the other contributors.

As for koffice, it preexisted the open sourcing of openoffice by a couple years I believe, and as of now, it is maturing into a very capable, lightweight (as in doesn't take 2 minutes to star up) office suite.

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RE: Krita and Koffice
by Nathan O. on Tue 14th Mar 2006 19:54 in reply to "Krita and Koffice"
Nathan O. Member since:
2005-08-11

I agree. I'm not sure what he was getting at with the "reinventing the wheel" thing. Krita and Koffice are very different from their counterparts. *Some* reinvention can be a good thing. I think of it as covering more ground rather than competition.

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RE: Krita and Koffice
by l3v1 on Tue 14th Mar 2006 20:50 in reply to "Krita and Koffice"
l3v1 Member since:
2005-07-06

I also agree completely. First off, KOffice is the older one so reinventing the wheel doesn't stand. Secondly, KWrite gives frame-based editing with the ability to include any other KOffice part in the document. Very nice, usable and fast.

Also, just take a quick look on the parts of KOffice, and try to search for anything even similar in gnome or else. Yes, you can come up with openoffice as an example but koffice still has a lot more to offer in many areas than openoffice.org.

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RE[2]: Krita and Koffice
by Mitarai on Tue 14th Mar 2006 22:52 in reply to "RE: Krita and Koffice"
Mitarai Member since:
2005-07-28

koffice still has a lot more to offer in many areas than openoffice.org.

Like what?

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RE: Krita and Koffice
by someone on Tue 14th Mar 2006 21:16 in reply to "Krita and Koffice"
someone Member since:
2006-01-12

I agree...

Krita is not even aimed at the same crowd as Gimp. Gimp is aimed at the photoshop crowd, while Krita is aimed at the Corel Painter crowd. Krita also offers 16bit support, which is still absent from Gimp (and GEGL is still in the early stages even after all these years)

As for KOffice, it began long before Sun open sourced OO.o. In addition, OO.o's codebase is almost impossible for an outside contributor to understand, which means Sun is still responsible for most of its development. KOffice is much cleaner than OO.o and some of its concepts (the DTP-infused Kword) are novel compared to OO.o, which is basically a MS Office clone.

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RE: Krita and Koffice
by grat on Wed 15th Mar 2006 02:26 in reply to "Krita and Koffice"
grat Member since:
2006-02-02

I'll agree that the jabs at Koffice/Krita were unfounded, but I have to also take exception with your shot at OpenOffice for taking "2 minutes to start up".

On my Athlon XP 1800+, 512mb, OpenOffice Writer 2.0, it's around 20 seconds, with no preloading (SuSE 9.3, if anyone *really* cares).

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm off to look at Krita... even though my primary graphics thing is image manipuation, not painting. ;)

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