Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Apr 2006 12:02 UTC, submitted by SilentBob4
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu MadPenguin takes a look at Flight 5 of Ubuntu Dapper, and concludes: "All in all, Ubuntu 6.06 is gearing up to be quite an impressive release. Granted, I saw some bugs during my stay on the distribution, but can I really complain? It's not a full release, so it deserves some breathing room. Considering some of the horribly authored software I've looked at over the years, I feel that Ubuntu in pre-release form is more stable than other distros when they reach final release status. It's not quite in the league of Slackware and Red Hat/Fedora in that respect yet, but it's surely getting there in a hurry."
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RE[3]: With a price
by rattaro on Mon 17th Apr 2006 19:27 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: With a price"
rattaro
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2005-08-22

I think OSX and Ubuntu are for different audiences, so I don't think direct subjective comparisons are really valid. OSX only runs (legally) on Apple hardware, and you need 1 license per computer. Ubuntu runs on almost all x86 computers (other platforms are supported as well), and you can install on all the computers you need. It's ok to compare features to see what you like better (very subjective by nature). But at the same time, if you like choice and freedom, you are not in OSX's target audience, and if you prefer highly integrated specific hardware with your software, you aren't in Ubuntu's target audience either.

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RE[4]: With a price
by Omega Penguin on Mon 17th Apr 2006 20:37 in reply to "RE[3]: With a price"
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2006-02-12

The price of Ubuntu is no tech support besides online.However,in most other respects Ubuntu is a strong contender for Mac OS X.Well,at least Tiger,not sure how it will fare against Leopard.

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RE[5]: With a price
by rattaro on Mon 17th Apr 2006 21:11 in reply to "RE[4]: With a price"
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2005-08-22

I would expect no support for no price. Again, two different markets though.

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RE[4]: With a price
by somebody on Mon 17th Apr 2006 21:22 in reply to "RE[3]: With a price"
somebody Member since:
2005-07-07

It's ok to compare features to see what you like better (very subjective by nature).

I wasn't comparing which I like better. My comparisson was based on comparing USABLE/UNUSABLE for serious use.

Most of the functions I was bashing are completely unusable from the point of serious use. Might suffice for non-serious user, maybe, but not for serious one.

Either that or you're just saying that Mail.app is serious mailing application and Terminal.app with all his deficiencies is best terminal ever:) It is not getting there even remotely. Even thunderbird is not there yet. Probably the only serious mail apps are Outlook and Evolution.

But at the same time, if you like choice and freedom, you are not in OSX's target audience, and if you prefer highly integrated specific hardware with your software, you aren't in Ubuntu's target audience either.

I like choice and freedom, but I also prefer highly integrated specific hardware with my software. So... after buying a 100% supported machine I have a lot less trouble with my Opterons (bought after following HCL and except two liner for NVidia, worked out of the base install) than with my only G5 in case of software being integrated with hardware. And why is too integrated with hardware bad? Read next:)

This time all my bought software will go down the drain when I'll be updating G5. Since (or better IF, and I doubt that more and more) I'll be updating to Intel next year sometimes I doubt that even one software will make a crossgrade or upgrade even remotely possible. Talk about tight integration, too tight for my opinion or better said too expensive. It is probably cheaper to drop my Mac supporting needs and focus on Windows/*X only (OSX is not *X in my viewpoint, so take this as my personal opinion which is valid as expressed for me only), and it simplifies my coding since I don't need to test and adapt on OSX anymore. I would maybe suffer if I would be dropping Windows support, but dropping OSX I probably won't even notice except having a lot more time for other things.

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RE[5]: With a price
by rattaro on Mon 17th Apr 2006 22:35 in reply to "RE[4]: With a price"
rattaro Member since:
2005-08-22

>Either that or you're just saying that Mail.app is serious mailing application and Terminal.app with all his deficiencies is best terminal ever:)

Not at all. I'm just saying that for people who don't need any bells and whistles, and ONLY use Apple products, it's probably just fine for them.

>And why is too integrated with hardware bad?

It's not, and I wasn't implying that it was. But with Apple, ANY Apple peripheral will work with OSX. Any peripheral in existence will not work with Ubuntu. "Too integrated" means less choice, but probably better stability, and better drivers. Do you want less choice with great drivers, or more choice with possibly inferior peripheral drivers? How you answer this is probably what you will pick as your computer system if there was a choice between OSX and Ubuntu. In any case, I think we went way off topic long ago. Sorry.

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