Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 7th May 2006 19:17 UTC
Law and Order Sometimes, the smallest of things can amaze me. I'm a sucker for details, which probably lies at the base of my slightly obsessive-compulsive traits of keeping things organized, tidy, aligned, and neat. It's great to see some companies are suckers for details too. Unless the details just become too insignificant. Note: Sunday Eve Column. Short, this week, though.
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Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

Thom, pulling out wrong and stupid analogies out of somewhere is just a very bad excuse for having a real argument. And again, abusing a monopoly is against the law, whether you like it or not.

No, this is not a wrong analogy. How does the Firefox Vs. IE issue differ from the Explorer.exe Vs. Talisman.exe issue other than that Firefox happens to be popular?

The question you refuse to answer, Ralph, is where do you draw the line?

"So should MS provide a dialog for each setting while installing Vista?"
No.


Then what?

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ralph Member since:
2005-07-10

"The question you refuse to answer, Ralph, is where do you draw the line?"

No, I don't refuse to answer. I think it's pretty obvious that it gets problematic where the economic impact is considerable.
However, that's neither for me nor for you to decide, but for those whose job it is to enforce anti-trust laws and ultimately for the courts.

"Then what?"
I think you can find the answer yourself, if you consider that having one config dialog for one option does not equal having for each setting while installing Vista".

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devurandom Member since:
2005-07-06

Ralph, I'm sorry, but Thom is right.

How do you measure "considerable"? And if talisman is not "considerable", isn't it because of bundling of explorer.exe? If Windows XP shipped like Linux (that is, technically, a bare kernel or at least as a set of modular distributions), wouldn't there a plethora of XP graphic shells?

If you want to build a serious argument, you should define it much more logically.

I am a Linux geek and I really hate true MS monopolistic practices (like extending and corrupting HTML, or closing down Office formats), but the "bundling" argument always looked hollow to me too.

Moreover, courts aren't the Holy Sources Of Truth, I think.

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