Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 8th May 2006 19:14 UTC, submitted by Ubuntu Fan
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu At LinuxTag on Saturday, a meeting of Kubuntu and KDE contributors was held in order to improve the collaboration of both projects. The aim was to to talk about the common future of both projects. Jonathan Riddell and Mark Shuttleworth from Canonical attended the meeting. Later in his keynote speech to the conference, Mark publicly committed to Kubuntu as an essential product for Canonical and showed his commitment by wearing a KDE t-shirt.
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Committed to KDE...
by Jezza on Mon 8th May 2006 20:20 UTC
Jezza
Member since:
2005-10-13

Hold on... Didn't Mark "Commit" to KDE last release too? Saying he was using KDE at home and watnted full support of Kubuntu?

Shame that didn't really appear, I use KDE on ubuntu here, and it's had some awful long-standing bugs (especially with CUPS) throughout the whole release cycle.

Let's hope Etchy will see this support of KDE actually materialise

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RE: Committed to KDE...
by da_Chicken on Mon 8th May 2006 21:26 in reply to "Committed to KDE..."
da_Chicken Member since:
2006-01-01

Etchy? The next stable Debian release (planned for December 2006) will be called Etch. The next Ubuntu release after Breezy Badger will be called Edgy Eft.

In Toy Story movies there appears a character named Etch-A-Sketch. Eft, apparently, is some kind of newt.

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RE: Committed to KDE...
by elsewhere on Mon 8th May 2006 21:36 in reply to "Committed to KDE..."
elsewhere Member since:
2005-07-13

Hold on... Didn't Mark "Commit" to KDE last release too? Saying he was using KDE at home and watnted full support of Kubuntu?

Yes, it's deja vu all over again.

Shame that didn't really appear, I use KDE on ubuntu here, and it's had some awful long-standing bugs (especially with CUPS) throughout the whole release cycle.

In fairness, the CUPS bugs are mainly KDE's fault for using non-standard API's for CUPS that disappeared after an upgrade, the CUPS team has subsequently agreed to keep those API's alive through the next release cycle, buying the KDE team some time to re-work printing. From what I gather, the matter was complicated by the fact that Ubuntu chose to use a cvs version of CUPS for Dapper that was implemented in a non-standard way and the KDE guys had a hard time figuring out how to fix it. At least, this is my understanding from the kde dev blogs.

Of course, doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, I never managed to get printing working under Kubuntu Dapper, whereas it worked flawlessly in Hoary and Breezy, as well as the latest version of Suse.

Let's hope Etchy will see this support of KDE actually materialise

Beyond just porting the KDE goodies from openSuse that is ;)

Actually, Kubuntu shows promise, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it as is for the average user. I actually started to really like using Adept for package management as well. Given the sorry state of package management in Suse right now, and the abandonment of Synaptic, I wouldn't mind seeing Adept ported to work with apt4rpm maybe.

One of the nice things about KDE is that it's fairly independent from the distros and implementation tends to be fairly consistent regardless of the distro it's running on. The difference I think is with distros like Suse that build on it (ie. adding Kerry, knetworkmanager etc.) and try and do a better job of integrating it into the underlying OS, it tends to just feel more solid that way.

I'd like to see Kubuntu do something similar, and maybe build on or advance KDE rather than just settling for a well supported implementation. I mean, even Fedora has a decent enough, vanilla implementation of KDE. Kubuntu can do better, and in fact already has.

Part of me wonders if Mark's just waiting for KDE 4.0 when much of the heavy lifting will already be done...? I'd be disappointed if that's the case...

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RE: Committed to KDE...
by jjmckay on Tue 9th May 2006 02:49 in reply to "Committed to KDE..."
jjmckay Member since:
2005-11-11

Mark said he was using KDE on ubuntu *after* ubuntu breezy was released so no we are not seeing kubuntu as a primary focus yet. No promises broken.

- kubuntu user here

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