Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 8th Jun 2006 16:32 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless It's no secret: Nokia is after Blackberry's thunder in the enterprise with their latest E series, and especially via the E61 model. Hi-Mobile sent us in an E61 unit for the purposes of this review. Dig in for information, a video and lots of screenshots from the latest 'S60 3rd Edition' Symbian v9.1 OS.
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my experiences with E60
by kloty on Thu 8th Jun 2006 21:34 UTC
kloty
Member since:
2005-07-07

Hello,

two weeks ago I bought Nokia E60, quite the same phone but without keyboard. I bought it mainly because I was astonished by the possibility to make VoIP calls over WLAN, and wanted to have good multimedia phone and a PDA replacement. I was so dissapointed by the device that I wanted to return it back, which hasn't been possible yet (more on this below).

First I had really hard time till I could connect the device to internet. THe problem is that my neighbours WLAN access point is only allowed to connect devices, whose MAC adress is explicitely unlocked. Usually the access point (Netgear) automaticly detects the MAC adress of the devices, so it is quite simple to unlock it. It did not work with E60, so I had to search for its MAC adress (some undocumented combination of keys).

Then the surfing experience isn't that great. The browser is good, but the connection isn't. It breaks down very often, so komplex sites do not load completely. I had a feeling like browsing with 28k modem and not with 6Mbit DSL. Then another dissapointment was that although RealPlayer is included, it does not support streaming media, so no internet radio (or only with third party software). And the biggest minus is that VoIP does only work under very certain circumstances, so it's quite useless for me.

For me the battery time was absolutely not satisfying. With very modest usage I had to recharge it every second day. I'm traveling quite a lot and I don't want to take the recharger every time with me. If there were a possibility to switch of WLAN completely, if there is no need for it, it surely would save a lot of power.

I have an Ibook without Bluetooth and I though I knew that I cannot synchronize E60 over USB, I hoped MacOSX would recognize it as flash memory, so I would be able to push some files on the MMC. No way. So I have to buy extra Bluetooth stick for my IBook to send 1 GByte of MP3 to the E60. Anyone knows how many hours I have to wait?

So I wanted to return the phone back, because it did not fullfill my expectations. I used it for one week and carried it in my jeans pocket (without keys, coins or other metal stuff). After one week I had scratches on the metal surface, so I could not return it. There are no official ways to get a new tray, only on Ebay I could order one and hope it will be here on time before the return period is over.

So this was my last Nokia for sure.

Anton

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RE: my experiences with E60
by Eugenia on Thu 8th Jun 2006 21:49 in reply to "my experiences with E60"
Eugenia Member since:
2005-06-28

> With very modest usage I had to recharge it every second day.

The E61 has a bigger battery than your E60. Also, if you don't live in Europe (I know you do though), you must disable UMTS so you save on battery.

> I hoped MacOSX would recognize it as flash memory, so >I would be able to push some files on the MMC

THIS WORKS. I just tried my 12" Powerbook G4 with my E61. It worked! It mounted the miniSD card and I could drop files in it.

> Connection breaks down very often, so complex sites
>do not load completely. I had a feeling like browsing
>with 28k modem and not with 6Mbit DSL.

I had a few WiFi drops too. It seems that the WiFi stack crashes all too often, and then they have a daemon that relaunches it every minute or so. However, the "slowness" of the rendering is not due to the WiFi, but due to limiting CPU power (and it's the same for most phones too). For example, CNN.com is 450 KBs of data, and it takes 12 MBs to render on the S60 browser. As you can understand, running at around 250 Mhz, it will take a while to calculate its complex code, and that won't be WiFi's fault, even if "visually" seems like it is.

>Usually the access point (Netgear) automaticly detects the MAC adress of the devices

I use a NetGear WiFi router and my E61 worked out of the box just fine.

I agree with you about VoIP and RealPlayer.

I suggest you sell your E60, and either buy the E70 when it's out soon, or get the E60 again or the E61 in 2-3 months when they are shipped by default with a newer firmware.

Edited 2006-06-08 21:52

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Infinitybeach Member since:
2006-06-13

>Eugenia
>I had a few WiFi drops too. It seems that the WiFi stack crashes all too often, and then they have a daemon that relaunches it every minute or so.



Hi,
It looks like turning on Automatic Email Retrieval over my WiFi network is causing applications to lock-up

It generally manages to connect to the imap mailbox at least once in the background. After that email, internet or sometimes the email key, all hang.

This ONLY happens over wifi & I can only clear it by re-booting the phone. Could this be related to the wifi stack crashing continually?

R.

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