Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Aug 2005 20:49 UTC
Original OSNews Interviews The news that Apple is going to switch to Intel processors shook up the computing world. Many users and developers were eager to publish their opinions on the switch. However, one group of people were totally neglected during all this: resellers. Today, we feature an interview with Wim Schermer, first Dutchman to own a Mac (in 1984), and co-founder of one of the biggest Apple retail stores in The Netherlands, MacSupport. We discuss the switch to Intel, and much more.
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RE[8]: Price
by David on Fri 5th Aug 2005 04:12 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Price"
David
Member since:
1997-10-01

Kelly, please let's not turn this thread into yet another boring "Macs are too expensive, no they're not" back and forth. People have pretty much made up their minds on this particular issue, and there's not much you or anyone else will be able to do to change that.

People used to complain that there was no sub $500 Mac, and then Apple came out with one, and it didn't stop the "Macs are too much money" crowd, because they're always going to look at the issue with different criteria than someone on your side of the issue. Let's just let this one go and not rehash it every single time someone mentions Mac pricing.

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RE[9]: Price
by Anonymous Penguin on Fri 5th Aug 2005 04:29 in reply to "RE[8]: Price"
Anonymous Penguin Member since:
2005-07-06

LOL, i wanted to give you a + vote and then I noticed that you are the boss.

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RE[9]: Price
by kellym6 on Fri 5th Aug 2005 05:14 in reply to "RE[8]: Price"
kellym6 Member since:
2005-08-02

So what you're saying is that people can continue making false commets and you would rather I not respond because they are already misinformed and are unlikely to change their mind?

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RE[9]: Price
by kellym6 on Fri 5th Aug 2005 05:18 in reply to "RE[8]: Price"
kellym6 Member since:
2005-08-02

David, I don't mean to be rude, but are you going to pull a Eugenia and dictate what people can and can't talk about now?

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RE[10]: Price
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 5th Aug 2005 05:46 in reply to "RE[9]: Price"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Kelly, Wim put the price issue really well when he said:

Apple is better, prettier, more reliable, but in the end it's up to the customer. And if that customer is satisfied with a Windows computer for 800 Euro (970 US Dollars), and the price is his selling point, then he won't buy a pretty iMac G5 for 1 500 Euro.

What is not expensive too you might be very expensive to someone else. The world isn't as black and white as you always want it to be in these threads.

Look, if a user can do all he wants with a Windows PC for 800E, then to that user, a 1500E iMac, which doesn't let him do more, is simply more expensive. Get over it. 1500E is more than 800E.

Does that mean that the iMac is *too* expensive? No! It simply means it's *more* expensive.

If you believe that 1500E isn't more than 800E, and if you also cannot understand that not everyone in this world is rich enough to spend 1500E on a new computer, than you're simply a sad person.

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RE[10]: Price
by dru_satori on Fri 5th Aug 2005 16:45 in reply to "RE[9]: Price"
dru_satori Member since:
2005-07-06

Kelly,

I'm a Mac user, and will counter the arguments where it reasonable. You've taken to doing so at the unreasonable level, and I agree wholeheartedly with David. Please let them have their say, anyone that has done some shopping lately, at the consumer level, not at the I can build it myself level, already knows that you can buy a WinTel for a little bit less money. Notice I didn't say equivalent, because it doesn't exist. The feature sets simply aren't. An entry level Mac caters to a different need than an entry level WinTel, and that in and of itself is a large part of the issue, because you simply cannot compare true equals, and don't expect the MacTel's to change that.

An entry level WinTel is not going to have Digital Audio & Firewire 800 out of the box, because that's not it's market. An entry level Mac isn't going to arrive with a PCCard slot, because it's target market shouldn't need it.

It's not an argument that's worth having, and it's been had way too many times.

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RE[10]: Price
by David on Fri 5th Aug 2005 17:24 in reply to "RE[9]: Price"
David Member since:
1997-10-01

I didn't tell you that you couldn't trot out the whole "Macs are too expensive no they're not" issue. I said that you shouldn't. You don't have to obey me, and I won't retaliate against you if you don't.

And, like Eugenia, I read this site often enough to get a little tired of the same old flamewars. And, like Eugenia, I feel it's my right to say so.

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