Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 11th Jul 2006 12:07 UTC
Windows From today, Microsoft will no longer issue security updates or provide support for Windows 98 and Windows ME, which could lead users to trying alternative operating systems such as Linux. Eight years after launching Windows 98, Microsoft will finally wash its hands of updating and plugging security gaps in its ageing operating system. The software giant originally planned to pull the plug in January 2004 but decided to extend support because of the increasing threat from Linux.
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ivory tower
by rakamaka on Tue 11th Jul 2006 13:12 UTC
rakamaka
Member since:
2005-08-12

Dear lord. Average Joe doesn't have to mount an audio CD, nor does anyone else. Only data CDs need to be mounted, and any modern distro will automount a data CD, then ask you whether you want to look at the contents. To unmount, you right-click on the desktop icon the system has lovingly created and select Eject. Have you actually used linux in the last 5 years?
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Reply: Have you used any distro BEFORE 5 years? at least I am using linux since 1995. The MODERN distros you mentioned needs Linux Compatible hardware???
Can you install any sensible linux distro on perfectly running win 98 box(64MB ram, XFCE, Fluxbox, etc) and tell Average Joe to listen CD as soon as you insert it?? No way..
BTW, ubuntu, knoppix, slack...latest versions..2006...you can't push switch on your cd drive and Eject your CD? Cant devels make average joe's life easier???

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RE: ivory tower
by liamdawe on Tue 11th Jul 2006 13:25 in reply to "ivory tower"
liamdawe Member since:
2006-07-04

Well i am on ubuntu right now *presses cd drive* OH LOOK it comes out.
Try using a modern distro before you come here and make stupid replies like that.

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RE: ivory tower
by SEJeff on Tue 11th Jul 2006 13:25 in reply to "ivory tower"
SEJeff Member since:
2005-11-05

BTW, ubuntu, knoppix, slack...latest versions..2006...you can't push switch on your cd drive and Eject your CD? Cant devels make average joe's life easier???
That is the first thing I do on a new linux install and here is how:
sudo echo "dev.cdrom.lock=0" >> /etc/sysctl.conf
sudo sysctl -p

When Microsoft ended support for windows NT, you saw a huge surge in Linux usage / buzz in IT. Why? Because samba makes for one heck of a good fileserver and it is free.

You mean I can replace my non-supported NT PDC (Primary Domain Controller) without having to move to active directory with free software? Where do I sign up? <-- My school was one of the businesses I helped do this several years ago when NT got EOL.

Currently, a good majority of businesses (large established ones) still use windows 2000. They use win2k because it is mostly secure and gets the job done from an enterprise perspective. Large businesses haven't moved to windows XP because of hardware requirements and user training. XP? Forget about it. That won't happen for sometime to come.

I see this as only good news for Linux, BSD, and open source in general.

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RE: ivory tower
by mksoft on Tue 11th Jul 2006 13:27 in reply to "ivory tower"
mksoft Member since:
2006-02-25

Pleas stop embarrassing yourself. On this laptop I have ubuntu dapper:

Insert data cd, icon appears on desktop and a window with the cd content.

Pressed the eject button on the cd drive, window closes, icon gone, cd ejected.

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v RE[2]: ivory tower
by liamdawe on Tue 11th Jul 2006 13:34 in reply to "RE: ivory tower"
RE[3]: ivory tower
by aent on Tue 11th Jul 2006 20:43 in reply to "RE: ivory tower"
aent Member since:
2006-01-25

Some buggy hardware (around 5-10% of drives, mostly older ones) does emit a interrupt when the eject button is pressed... Windows deals with this by not locking the drive... Most Linux distros lock the drive while its in usage and if the button is broken, you have to right click, eject. I haven't seen a drive that doesn't emit the signal in a while though.

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RE: ivory tower
by archiesteel on Tue 11th Jul 2006 14:29 in reply to "ivory tower"
archiesteel Member since:
2005-07-02

BTW, ubuntu, knoppix, slack...latest versions..2006...you can't push switch on your cd drive and Eject your CD?

Sure you can. Stop spreading FUD.

BTW, Linux rarely has any problems with older hardware, it is generally very well supported.

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