Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 11th Aug 2006 08:33 UTC, submitted by Rob Williams
Gentoo Techgage reviews Sabayon Linux, and conclcudes: "After taking an initial look at Sabayon, I have mixed feelings. Though, I feel more joy when using it than anything negative. One reason this distro may stand out above others is because it takes a difficult base distro, and opens its arms for new users who want to experiment. When it's all said and done, you will have a full functional Gentoo machine after the installation, topped off with a Sabayon coat of paint. What a great looking coat of paint it is."
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RE[2]: Sabayon...
by twenex on Fri 11th Aug 2006 15:44 UTC in reply to "RE: Sabayon..."
twenex
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2006-04-21

Well, there's so many implementations of cars/computers out there, that they're bound to start running into naming problems [VW Rabbit, Proton, and Apricot being three of the cheesier ones I can think of offhand].

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Seriously, how are cars/computers supposed to make progress amongst normal commuters/scientists/gamers with all these hundreds of models available. It's not about choice, it's about ego-inspired vanity. Choice would be to have maybe two dozen makes; what we have now leads to paralysis and confusion.

It's bad for all concerned; remember a couple of weeks back when one guy couldn't even pay his bills because he'd quit his job to code yet another linux distro! This is crazy. It's like it's an addiction. Just like many people seem to have to try every single last distro, just in case they're missing 'the big one'!

When this kind of behaviour takes over your whole life, you should know you have a problem..


Does the fact that there are stupid drivers make ALL drivers, or the idea of cars, stupid? No? Exactly. There ARE only a few leading distros/car makers/OEMs. People using other ones are probably doing so for a good reason, or at least for a reason that THEY think is good (for example, they might like Volvos for their tank-like construction, or a kit car because they want to build it themselves, or Gentoo because dependency hell is banished).

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RE[3]: Sabayon...
by iangibson on Fri 11th Aug 2006 15:59 in reply to "RE[2]: Sabayon..."
iangibson Member since:
2005-09-25

Your analogy would work better if you had attempted to justify a particular manufacturer - Ford, say - simultaneously designing, manufacturing & marketing hundreds of different models.

I suggest to you that they don't do this for a reason.

Another problem is that (unlike with cars) there's no way of making all the superflous rubbish disappear. No market mechanism. You can't stop the kids in the basement - people even send them money so they don't need to work for a living!

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RE[4]: Sabayon...
by orestes on Fri 11th Aug 2006 16:44 in reply to "RE[3]: Sabayon..."
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2005-07-06

I fail to see how the Linux/OSS world remotely resembles being a single manufacturer. It's more like each distro is a manufacturer unto themselves building from commodity parts.

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RE[4]: Sabayon...
by twenex on Fri 11th Aug 2006 16:51 in reply to "RE[3]: Sabayon..."
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Your analogy would work better if you had attempted to justify a particular manufacturer - Ford, say - simultaneously designing, manufacturing & marketing hundreds of different models.

Not really, because I can't think of a single manufacturer that has built a car that requires expertise in THEIR car alone. OTOH, this is normal practice in the computer world - stupidly, it even became normal practice in the Unix world.

However, for the sake of your argument, GM makes umpteen different makes of car, each of which has umpteen different models. In the States, I believe some of those "different" makes and models are actually just rebadged versions of the same car.

I suggest to you that they don't do this for a reason.

Which is?

Another problem is that (unlike with cars) there's no way of making all the superflous rubbish disappear. No market mechanism. You can't stop the kids in the basement - people even send them money so they don't need to work for a living!

THAT can't last for long. Besides, in the UK at least, I can tell you that it's perfectly possible to be a serial swindler/bungler, serially bankrupt companies, be serially convicted, and STILL be able to set up YET ANOTHER company under a SIMILAR NAME (e.g. Acme Ltd. or Acmee Ltd.) As for successful but crap companies, don't even get me started.

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