Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 25th Aug 2006 11:24 UTC, submitted by anyweb
SuSE, openSUSE Linux-Noob has reviewed SLED 10. "Novell's strengths are many, and I'm delighted to see the excellent work they have done in usability tests, and making the whole desktop feel like it's ready, ready to do business, and ready to serve its users. The development they've done with Beagle and in particular the 'computer menu' are fantastic and hopefully are just the start of better things to come."
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RE[2]: Great distro
by Quag7 on Fri 25th Aug 2006 15:25 UTC in reply to "RE: Great distro"
Quag7
Member since:
2005-07-28

I'm curious how many people who have used SLED are long-term Linux vets. I have noticed that the press for this latest release has been downright glowing.

I recently installed OpenSUSE, whatever the latest version is, on an old laptop of mine, just to see what it was like, having never used SUSE before.

I saw some polish and chrome there that had some obvious advantages in attracting users. I immediately saw why people get excited over YaST. It has a very unified "control panel" feel to it, and I can see the substantial practical benefits to it, especially for beginners or even people who just can't be bothered doing things at the command line. Also, as someone who is a snob about package managers (I imagine most of us are), I'd also report that YaST in OpenSUSE at least, worked great. Had zero problems with dependencies, crashes, or otherwise.

How similar to SLED is OpenSUSE? For those of you who have used at least 5 distros, how does SLED compare? I'm curious whether the glowing reviews of SLED are a result of people who are interested in making Linux more attractive to non-Linux users as an alternative to whatever they're running now, vs. its merits in comparison to other Linux distros for people who have used Linux for awhile.

I have no opinion on this either way; this is why I'm asking. I'm fairly certain that I'm not the intended audience for SLED - I run Gentoo and like that sort of thing (while realizing it's definitely not for everyone), but I am curious how it stacks up against other distros for the power user.

That being said, it's nice to see a Linux distribution get such glowing praise. I'm of the mind that good press for any distribution is probably good press for Linux in general.

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RE[3]: Great distro
by Trollstoi on Fri 25th Aug 2006 15:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Great distro"
Trollstoi Member since:
2005-11-11

I'm fairly certain that I'm not the intended audience for SLED - I run Gentoo

You are so 1337 :-P

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RE[4]: Great distro
by sbergman27 on Fri 25th Aug 2006 22:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Great distro"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Many people do not realize that Novell/Suse Linux is not just one distro, but a family of distros. Like with the BSD's, each must be evaluated individually.

Quag7 may be interested in "MySuse". Its association with Novell is only semi-official. But it has some unique advantages.

They've added an extension to Yast2 to allow sheduled download and compilation of source packages in the background, blurring the distinction between binary distros and source-based ones.

You can, of course, install almost anything from any Suse compatible binary repo. But that is mostly for convenience.

By default, it downloads packages which are security updates, as Suse source deltas, and compiles/installs them on a predetermined schedule. However, it can also be set to download and compile/install non-security related updates. The more daring can expand the repo list to include OpenSuse's beta or raw development repos. With the latter, you have freshly compiled packages from the cutting edge of Suse development waiting for you each morning.

Of course, you can go the other way as well, since choice is always good.

You can set it to simply download security updates and compile, but not install them.

Or you can set it to download and recompile the current source for package versions that you are already using, so that you have freshly recompiled packages each morning.

A recent optimization allows the savings of substantial bandwidth by caching the source packages on the local machine and recompiling them from the cache.

The next release will tie into the Beagle scheduler, and allow compilation to occur at any time, based upon user activity. Between that and source caching, even users of machines with comparatively limited resources and internet bandwidth can enjoy the benefits of freshly compiled packages, making MySuse a good candidate for projects like OLPC.

I'll definitely be keeping an eye on this distro.

Edited 2006-08-25 22:33

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RE[4]: Great distro
by Quag7 on Sun 27th Aug 2006 23:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Great distro"
Quag7 Member since:
2005-07-28

Yes, that's very 4 years ago.

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RE[3]: Great distro
by twenex on Fri 25th Aug 2006 15:58 in reply to "RE[2]: Great distro"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

I don't use SLED, but I use OpenSUSE Eval 10.0 on my laptop. Like you, I also run Gentoo. I have been running Linux (various distros) almost continuously since the late nineties.

I wanted SUSE to avoid hardware problems with my laptop - lots of stuff seems to work even in FreeBSD, but the internal wireless card is incompatible, and the wireless Cardbus card I bought has been a bitch in everything other than SUSE. I won't reiterate your glowing review of it, but I will second it.

As a Linux user experienced/brave/foolish enough to run Gentoo, despite what certain (particularly recent) comments of mine on this site might have led you to believe, I couldn't give a flying Firefox if someone makes a distro of Linux so similar to Windows that even dear old Microsoft couldn't tell the difference. I think the worry amongst us early adopters a few years ago was that doing this would divert attention (resources) from the features that made us love Linux in the first place; those fears have been, I think, misplaced. Different distros have different uses, and as such I probably won't be replacing my Gentoo machine with SUSE or the reverse any time soon. I think if SLED improves on openSUSE for "average users", using FOSS software, then everybody except the most rabid other-OS or GPL hater can shout a Big, Loud, Overdue, "Hoo-bloody-ray".

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RE[4]: Great distro
by twenex on Fri 25th Aug 2006 16:27 in reply to "RE[3]: Great distro"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Update: It seems the author of "linux-noob" "runs Fedora Core 5", so perhaps it's more "Linux for Noobs" than "Linux by Noobs". Read the review and all I can say is a Big, Loud, Overdue, "Hoo-bloody-ray!" ;-)

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RE[3]: Great distro
by Sphinx on Fri 25th Aug 2006 16:36 in reply to "RE[2]: Great distro"
Sphinx Member since:
2005-07-09

Tried it, does not hold a candle to gentoo.

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RE[4]: Great distro
by twenex on Fri 25th Aug 2006 16:45 in reply to "RE[3]: Great distro"
twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

As Quag7 said, they are for different audiences.

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RE[3]: Great distro
by anandrajan on Fri 25th Aug 2006 17:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Great distro"
anandrajan Member since:
2006-05-12

I'm curious how many people who have used SLED are long-term Linux vets.

I started using linux as my primary desktop in 1996. I'm now running SUSE 10.1 at home and SLED 10 at work. Here are some comparisons between the two.

1. While it is fairly straightforward to set up XGL on SUSE 10.1, it is almost braindead in SLED 10 (Gnome). XGL on SLED 10 with KDE is slightly more difficult. Slight advantage SLED 10.

2. Desktop search in SLED 10 via beagle is quite good and while I haven't spent much time with it on SUSE 10.1, it does come all ready to go in SLED 10. Slight advantage SLED 10.

3. SUSE 10.1 has a lot of repositories specifically meant for it and these can be accessed via smart. SLED 10 does not have any repositories and you have to use the SUSE 10.1 repositories. This creates some problems in SLED 10 as in I don't use the zen updater applet any more. I just use smart in SLED 10 to do package management. Major advantage SUSE 10.1.

4. When you register SLED 10 with Novell, the nvidia and ATI driver sites are added to Yast. Consequently, installing nvidia drivers is braindead in SLED 10. In SUSE 10.1, I download the nvidia drivers manually from nvidia's site. Advantage SLED 10.

5. There's not much of a community for SLED 10. SUSE 10.1 has a much stronger and larger community. Advantage: SUSE 10.1.

6. SLED 10 still has some annoying bugs. Display power management (DPMS) does not work at all and my monitor stayed on for a day before I realized this. This bug has still not been fixed. Advantage: SUSE 10.1.

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RE[4]: Great distro
by thebluesgnr on Fri 25th Aug 2006 17:34 in reply to "RE[3]: Great distro"
thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

This creates some problems in SLED 10 as in I don't use the zen updater applet any more. I just use smart in SLED 10 to do package management.

Is there a smart repository for the SLED 10 updates?

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