Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Sep 2006 16:00 UTC, submitted by Sonia Mehta
Apple "I want Vista to be a better OS than it's been promoted to be, but at the same time, I also want OS X to finally receive the public adoption that it deserves. Now is the time for Apple to creatively promote its Macintosh platform with OS X. This is the critical hour, and if Apple is able to take advantage of the uneasy feeling that many have towards Vista, then they could attract an untold amount of new users."
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What will really happen.
by danq on Thu 14th Sep 2006 19:46 UTC
danq
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2005-07-29

I've used Macs in the past (pre-OS X days), but have little experience with them.

Microsoft will likely win this current battle, simply because Apple computers are too overpriced. Plus, Apple has a bad reputation for machines that break, whether it be iPods or Macs. Lower your prices, make better quality machines, and you can easily defeat Microsoft.

As for Linux on the desktop, it will never happen. It is still very difficult to install and configure, and auto-detection tools don't always work the way you want them to, if they work at all.
Plus, Linux is *designed* to be difficult to use. Don't believe me? Recall the Raymond/Perens business model, which recommends that companies profit from open-source software by selling CDs (quickly becoming a thing of the past, with the widespead adoption of broadband), as well as SELLING SUPPORT FOR THE SOFTWARE. So Linux is designed to be difficult to use, so that companies like IBM and Novell can sell support for it.

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RE: What will really happen.
by JeffS on Thu 14th Sep 2006 21:06 in reply to "What will really happen."
JeffS Member since:
2005-07-12

"As for Linux on the desktop, it will never happen. It is still very difficult to install and configure, and auto-detection tools don't always work the way you want them to, if they work at all.
Plus, Linux is *designed* to be difficult to use. Don't believe me? Recall the Raymond/Perens business model, which recommends that companies profit from open-source software by selling CDs (quickly becoming a thing of the past, with the widespead adoption of broadband), as well as SELLING SUPPORT FOR THE SOFTWARE. So Linux is designed to be difficult to use, so that companies like IBM and Novell can sell support for it."


That's the biggest FUD statement I've seen in a long time.

If Linux is so friggin difficult, then how come I can install PCLinuxOS, Freespire, Mepis, or Kanotix (and a number of others) in 10 minutes or less, without having to configure anything, and all hardware working out of the box?

Basically, danq's statement is one of complete ignorance and assumption, and zero real experience.

I'm sure he/she just heard "linux is hard and for geeks", and assumed it was true. Either that, or he's a paid MS astroturfer.

Ah, FUD. It just never goes away, does it?

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RE[2]: What will really happen.
by danq on Fri 15th Sep 2006 02:39 in reply to "RE: What will really happen."
danq Member since:
2005-07-29

No FUD here.

I am a former Linux user. If you check out my Web site, I support the free software movement and Creative Commons. As a libertarian, I am also very much opposed to intellectual "property" and Microsoft's politics. I am the maintainer of the GNU/DOS distribution of FreeDOS, and have developed a number of smaller GPLed applications and games, some of which run on Linux.

Linux has (especially since Kernel 2.6, newer versions of KDE, Gnome 2 and Slackware's decision to drop it, ALSA, OpenOffice, and other recent developments) been extremely frustrating for me. This is just personal experience. I have used RedHat, Slackware, Arch, Ubuntu, and perhaps others I can't think of right now.
While I used to like Linux, I am no longer happy with any of them. One may support my wireless card while another might not, one might not autoconfigure X properly while another will, and one doesn't let me use the sound in YouTube Flash videos while another does not work with my sound card at all. Not to mention shutdown problems with APM that require a kernel recompile, etc. Just a total mess and lack of coordination when I can simply turn on a Windows machine which, despite its problems which are easily fixed through quick installations of third party programs such anti-virus, anti-spyware, and alternate browsers like Firefox, is worth paying for, and use it.
Not to mention the fact that Linux is much slower, especially the OpenOffice program (why did they choose Java of all languages to write such a critical component in?)

If you like all that work, no problem. But if you're like most computer users and want a computer that simply "works out of the box," Windows is the best choice unless Apple lowers their prices.

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