Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Sep 2006 21:20 UTC
Windows Ars takes a quick look at Vista RC1, and concludes: "Using it as my daily workhorse for two weeks has taught me a lot of things, the first of which is that Vista is doing better than many of its critics are claiming. A day after RC1 was available to select partners, the wires lit up with story after story about how 'Vista isn't ready'. No, it's not ready. It's a release candidate, at best, a late-stage beta at worst. Having actually used the OS for a while, I'm not so sure that the sky is falling claims have much merit."
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RE[5]: Vista RC1 is still better
by blitze on Wed 20th Sep 2006 05:18 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Vista RC1 is still better"
blitze
Member since:
2006-09-15

aent, are you trying to tell me that with a release for Edgy Eft due in October Knot 2 and Knot 3 are only Alpha State releases?

Wouldn't the Ubuntu team be cutting it way short if that was the case?

At least Vista is getting a second Release Candidate and will not be let out onto the public until early next year at the very earliest.

I am more of the thinking that they are at a relatively similar state of development but with Vista it is of a less evolving natuture compared to Linux as when MS gets a solid release they usually sit on it for a while where as Linux continues (Ubuntu 6mth release schedule).

In a word, both a far from ready at this point in time.

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deb2006 Member since:
2006-06-26

Edgy Eft builds upon Dapper, and Dapper is rock solid. There are a few things under the hood that are indeed new, but generally speaking it is an evolving thing.

What I don't understand about Vista: What is so damn new about it that it justifies such a long development circle? I completely fail to see that. But maybe it's just me ...

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eMagius Member since:
2005-07-06

What is so damn new about it...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_Vista

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thebluesgnr Member since:
2005-11-14

aent, are you trying to tell me that with a release for Edgy Eft due in October Knot 2 and Knot 3 are only Alpha State releases?

They are considered alpha by the Ubuntu release team. Of course, since the release cycle is much shorter than Vista's, it takes a lot less time to go from alpha to beta to release.

with Vista it is of a less evolving natuture compared to Linux as when MS gets a solid release they usually sit on it for a while where as Linux continues (Ubuntu 6mth release schedule).

There are distributions that try to provide the latest developments in the floss world, and others that try to build a solid, stable release to be supported for a very long time.

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Axord Member since:
2005-06-30

"are you trying to tell me that with a release for Edgy Eft due in October Knot 2 and Knot 3 are only Alpha State releases?"

That's how Ubuntu themselves describe it:

"The Edgy Eft Knot 3 is the third alpha release of Ubuntu 6.10"
http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/knot3

And here's their development schedule:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule

"In a word, both a far from ready at this point in time."

That would mean that MS is lying about their release actually being a Release Candidate.

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aent Member since:
2006-01-25

I'd agree that both are ready at this point in time, however one is labeled ALPHA while the other one is labeled to be a candidate for RELEASE. Ubuntu is scheduled to go into beta with the appropiate freezes in one week, where then there will be a heavy focus on getting it ready for release by the time the RC is released. At that time, critical remaining bugs will be fixed, not a lot of release work that was known about for a long time. Edgy did have a shorter then usual release cycle (4 months)...

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