Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 5th Oct 2006 20:44 UTC, submitted by jasper
Red Hat Red Hat has an NDA cooperation with Marvell for the wireless chips that they want to use for the One Laptop per Child-project. The idea of this is that both parties think Marvell will be more open in the future, but this is absolutely not the path they should walk, according to OpenBSD's Theo de Raadt. "I am getting really tired of 'open source' people who work against the open source community. Our little group can probably take credit for having 'opened up' more wireless devices than the rest of the community, and therefore we feel we have a better grasp of the damage OLPC has done here."
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Ack
by Oliver on Thu 5th Oct 2006 21:02 UTC
Oliver
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2006-07-15

OpenBSD is the one and only real free and open operating system. There is no "religion" like in GPL and there is no "war" between distros of any kind. Just openess without any drawback! Should be common in opensource, but the opposite is true.

Edited 2006-10-05 21:03

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RE: Ack
by LB06 on Thu 5th Oct 2006 21:57 in reply to "Ack"
LB06 Member since:
2005-07-06

Your argumentation does not hold ground. The one license that actually makes sure software remains open, is GPL. If you want to call it viral, that's fine, I understand the reasoning behind it. But then you should also be aware that Theo is even more viral than the GPL, or at least he wants to be.

And that "war" you are refering to, you know how people tend to call it? Ironically most people would call it a free market. And the GNU/GPL/Linux people are communists?

I'm not saying that Theo isn't right. Binary blobs are a problem, but please stop throwing non-relevant and/or incorrect out of your windows.

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RE[2]: Ack
by binarycrusader on Thu 5th Oct 2006 22:48 in reply to "RE: Ack"
binarycrusader Member since:
2005-07-06

Your argumentation does not hold ground. The one license that actually makes sure software remains open, is GPL.

Sorry, but that's factually incorrect. It would be correct, however, to say that "licenses that contain at least the same conditions as the GPL make sure software remains open."

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RE[2]: Ack
by Janizary on Thu 5th Oct 2006 23:11 in reply to "RE: Ack"
Janizary Member since:
2006-03-12

Are you high son? Damned near any licence listed on the OSI's site makes sure the software remains open, hell, even the public domain, which is to say no licence, the granting of all rights absolutely, makes sure that the software remains open.

People making a closed source derivative of something does not remove the original software, how hard is that to understand? So many GPL fanbois seem to completely ignore this.

The GPL is one of many licences which force all derivative software of the original to be open, it isn't even alone in what you meant to say.

Edited 2006-10-05 23:12

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RE[2]: Ack
by Oliver on Fri 6th Oct 2006 08:19 in reply to "RE: Ack"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

At first, mark the "" ;)

Secondly, refering to a free market and ignoring reality isn't useful too. Is Theo viral? Take BSD, use the code, do what you want - what's viral with these things? It's real freedom. It isn't "freedom" according to some peoples opinion, it's freedom to choose your own way - most people think they are doing the right thing, history will show.

>but please stop throwing non-relevant and/or incorrect out of your windows.

It's very important to see it right, most Linux distros do not care about any freedom. The "war" I mean, isn't the variety of Linux distros, it's the ill attempt to "fight" against others instead of working together.

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RE: Ack
by diegocg on Thu 5th Oct 2006 21:58 in reply to "Ack"
diegocg Member since:
2005-07-08

"OpenBSD is the one and only real free and open operating system"

"There is no "religion" like in GPL "


Are you sure there's "no religion"?. I swear I just saw one somewhere...

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RE[2]: Ack
by Oliver on Fri 6th Oct 2006 08:12 in reply to "RE: Ack"
Oliver Member since:
2006-07-15

If it is "religion" to just don't care about common mumbo jumbo, yes there is something.

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by Moulinneuf on Fri 6th Oct 2006 14:39 in reply to "Ack"