Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 7th Oct 2006 17:48 UTC, submitted by J.
X11, Window Managers "Compiz is the compositing window manager that works on top of Xgl or AIGLX to enable Desktop Effects. Recently, a community developer named Quinn Storm announced that she would start a Compiz-based fork project called 'Beryl', citing frustration with Novell regarding getting her code fixes accepted into the Compiz upstream source tree. We called Compiz/Xgl maintainer David Reveman to get his side of the story."
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One Sided
by Jarsto on Sat 7th Oct 2006 22:17 UTC
Jarsto
Member since:
2005-10-06

What struck me is that they start complaining that things have been one sided and then proceed to do a completely one sided show themselves. Sure they were coming from the other side, and it was their intention primarily to get David's side across, but if they're so concerned about being even handed you'd think they'd at least ask someone from the Beryl side to comment before sending it out. Also when a show related to Novell interviews someone who works for Novell they might want to preface it with a declaration that this is probably not unbiased reporting.

Aside from that the "why can't we just have one really good compiz" thing sort of annoyed me. One thing I like about Linux is choice. I can choose Gnome or KDE, Firefox or Konqueror (I chose KDE on the last question), and now if I want Beryl or Compiz. Having more than one program do the same sort of thing allows people to choose the one they like. Having only one "really great" option allows everyone to hate the same thing, in equal measure, but for different reasons.

RE: One Sided
by rhetoric.sendmemoney on Sat 7th Oct 2006 22:31 in reply to "One Sided"
rhetoric.sendmemoney Member since:
2006-01-22

I am all for choice too. However, my concern with Beryl is that its popularity due to its features will cause it to become a "standard." How many pieces of the linux system do we routinely shake are heads at and wish they were designed better from the start? How many limitations will we regret having not done right the first time? Personally, I say stick with the quality code and build it *right* rather than now.

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RE[2]: One Sided
by AnonaMoose on Sat 7th Oct 2006 23:59 in reply to "RE: One Sided"
AnonaMoose Member since:
2005-08-11

Howdy

I really think you`ll find that big distros will stick to the "official" tree backed by a large corperation and that individuals will probably use the "storm" version.
As for forking = bad well just think about those developers stopping all development due to their frustrations, basically everyone looses in that case and some duplicated effort is not such a bad thing really and if you look at ALL the Linux distro's kernels for instance you`ll see that sometimes 2 or 3 ways of doing things gives another an idea that eventually emerges as the "right way".

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RE: One Sided
by sbergman27 on Sun 8th Oct 2006 02:55 in reply to "One Sided"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

"""What struck me is that they start complaining that things have been one sided and then proceed to do a completely one sided show themselves."""

Plus that fact that it was just so... corporate. They sounded like they were struggling to sound so... hip.

I'm sure that every word was reviewed and approved by the legal department.

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