Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 13th Oct 2006 21:02 UTC
Mac OS X "If you can believe what some of the online tech prognosticators tell you, Apple's real 'Top Secret' plan is to have Mac OS 10.5 Leopard out by Macworld Expo in January, or perhaps shortly thereafter. If true, it would give Apple a chance to trounce Windows Vista, at least in times of mind share as opposed to market share, assuming the latter indeed comes out around the same time. I think some of the folks who expect an early release ought to reconsider what they're smoking or drinking."
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by CVDpr on Fri 13th Oct 2006 18:23 UTC
CVDpr
Member since:
2005-10-17

I cant buy the Leopard and install it in my PC, but i can buy Vista and install it.

RE: Na...
by MacGod on Sat 14th Oct 2006 00:06 in reply to "Na..."
MacGod Member since:
2006-03-24

Hmmm - yeah, I guess you could buy VISTA and install it on your PC - but not the same with LEOPARD. but think about this - have you read the new EULA that comes with VISTA (rc2 at least). You cannot use the HOME version in a VM at all - right to use is limited to ONE TRANSFER - to new machine - PERIOD!!!

MS is getting bolder with their tactics of licensing.

I, unfortunatley am straddling both worlds right now - I use Mac OS X as my main laptop - use Parallez or Boot Camp to boot to XP if I need to run a Windows App or connect to my companies Exchange Server with a good native client (and do not mention... Entourage as that client).

I love the Mac OS, but need the XP OS for a lot of day to day work at my job.

OMG - talk about long winded - sorry - BUT, I do not think that Apple will rush their product to market to 'one-up' MS, ever.

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by kaiwai on Sat 14th Oct 2006 01:03 in reply to "RE: Na..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

With their licencing, I think the issue has to do more with their obsession with making money; I remember a well known CEO who said, "concentrated on the product, and the profits will follow".

If customers want to pirate, then so be it, no use trying to trace it, those who want to and able to pay for software, will always will, irrespective of whether its a free download away, whilst in the same sentence, those who want to pirate, irrespective of the copy protection, always will.

You're right, I don't think they're going to release MacOS X Tiger at the rumored date; they *might* give a fixed date at that time, they might show off the rumoured Finder replacement, but I don't see them shipping it; they need to do alot of work not only to bring it up to standard but to also add the necessary features to make it UNIX 2003 compliant.

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by gdanko on Sat 14th Oct 2006 19:13 in reply to "RE: Na..."
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

OMG - talk about long winded - sorry - BUT, I do not think that Apple will rush their product to market to 'one-up' MS, ever.

Apple has been one-upping Microsoft for most of Windows' history as far as ease of use and user experience are concerned. NT4 and 2000 had Apple beat from a stability, technical standpoint. But since OS X 10.1, Apple has been one-upping Microsoft consistently.

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by postmodern on Sat 14th Oct 2006 02:03 in reply to "Na..."
postmodern Member since:
2006-01-27

I can download Linux and install it on both my PC and Mac, and have Compiz Beryl, Beagle, Inkscape, bmpx, projectM, hald/dbus (and in the future KDE4), etc... for free.

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by Tuishimi on Sat 14th Oct 2006 04:37 in reply to "RE: Na..."
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by gdanko on Sat 14th Oct 2006 19:15 in reply to "RE: Na..."
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

I can download Linux and install it on both my PC and Mac, and have Compiz Beryl, Beagle, Inkscape, bmpx, projectM, hald/dbus (and in the future KDE4), etc... for free.

And that is great if you want a CLI-only system. But let's face it, with the fragmentation of the Linux UI development, there will be no real chance of a solid and truly usable desktop Linux for some time. And when I say that, I mean for all. As a techy I can get my way around a Linux desktop but OS X and even XP have a more intuitive UI. This is not to say I am anti-Linux.. I love BSD, Unix, Linux.. I just limit them to a CLI. ;)

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by aliquis on Sat 14th Oct 2006 22:03 in reply to "RE: Na..."
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Yeah, and everything will just copy other oses and not innovate at all.

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by superstoned on Sat 14th Oct 2006 15:33 in reply to "Na..."
superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

you can't buy either off them, you never own proprietary software. you can only buy the right to use it (just a few hundred bucks), and they can revoke that right anytime they want - without any reason. guess you don't read EULA's ;)

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by gdanko on Sat 14th Oct 2006 19:10 in reply to "Na..."
gdanko Member since:
2005-07-15

I cant buy the Leopard and install it in my PC, but i can buy Vista and install it.

Which makes the Intel Macs all the more compelling. Most people who use Windows admittedly use it for one or two apps/games. Being able to boot your Xeon Mac into XP/Vista to play a game then back into Leopard for real work is a compelling reason to buy a Mac.

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