Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Oct 2006 22:59 UTC, submitted by Christian Jensen
Debian and its clones Steve McIntyre visited the LiMux team in Munich and has posted a small report about the visit on his blog. LiMux is the specially tailored Debian distribution City of Munich deploys. "I'd like to talk some more about LiMux, the project being run within the City of Munich to replace all of their desktop Windows systems with Linux. They gave us a demonstration and answered lots of our questions."
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RE[8]: Troll?
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 22nd Oct 2006 17:58 UTC in reply to "RE[7]: Troll?"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

That is not what I was suggesting, and you know it, right?

No, but that is what it will BECOME.

When we had an editorial moderation system, people complained. Now we have a community moderation system, people complain they cannot complain 'out in the open' about this moderation system.

You CAN complain about it, and you can even complain about it out in the open-- whenever a new change is announced on the meta site. That is more than enough. Complaints later on can be sent to us via email. This is a very normal policy, and it will not change.

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RE[9]: Troll?
by sbergman27 on Sun 22nd Oct 2006 18:27 in reply to "RE[8]: Troll?"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

First of all, my apologies to the subscribers who are not interested in this subthread. It is, indeed, off-topic for this news story.

Thom, I believe that you were actually doing better with the editorial moderation system. This system is so easily abused that it is comical. People vote comments up and down based upon whether or not they agree with the opinions expressed in the post. You are thinking that only the persons modded down would have "complaints". "Complaints", by the way, is your word. I would substitute "items for consideration".

The problem is this: The fact that the rating system is easily abused does more than simply give certain individuals more visibility and reduce that of others; It destroys the *usefullness* of the facility.

My account settings are set to view posts which rate -5 and up, because some of those -5 posts are damned good ones which happen to espouse an unpopular opinion.

The facility is essentially useless to me as a subscriber.

Perhaps a hybrid of community and editorial based comment rating would be better? You kind of had that before, when you guys did the moderating and we could "report bad posts". Perhaps if you reversed the priority. We vote, and people can "Report ridiculous mods-up and mods-down", and the editors can decide?

Just a thought.

Obviously there would be lots of people reporting ridiculous votes that you would not want to act upon. Great restraint on the part of the editorial staff would likely be called for.

Anyway, something to think about.

Edited 2006-10-22 18:31

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