Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 24th Nov 2006 23:05 UTC, submitted by SEJeff
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth is trying to entice OpenSUSE developers to join Ubuntu. "Novell's decision to go to great lengths to circumvent the patent framework clearly articulated in the GPL has sent shockwaves through the community. If you are an OpenSUSE developer who is concerned about the long term consequences of this pact, you may be interested in some of the events happening next week as part of the Ubuntu Open Week."
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RE[7]: GPL software users
by nicolasb on Sat 25th Nov 2006 21:32 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: GPL software users"
nicolasb
Member since:
2006-08-22

"I can do anything with GPL'ed software as long as I don't distribute. On my own system I can link to anything I want to. The GPL kicks in when I distribute the software. The GPL is _not_ an EULA. It is merely a license and not a license _agreement_. "

You, as a user, you have the right to do that.

Ubuntu, as a distributor, don't have the right to link the kernel AND distribute it. We don't care if the "linking is happening on the machine". It's Ubuntu that did the work. It's like putting a bittorrent link to download vista on an Ubuntu setup automagically when it's installed and saying "it's happening on the User machine ! we did nothing. It's not ubuntu developers that download the vista torrent, it's them ! they are downloading it !".

Please, grow up. The world isn't as easy to f--k as you think it is.

"The latter one is perfectly legal in Denmark,"

Please, don't speak about denmark laws. We don't care. It's a very small country. It's not denmark that will decide the future of the linux desktop.
USA, Canada, England, Japan, France, Germany, and perhaps a little spice of China and India.

Denmark law doesn't count shit when we talk about developing software. Software developers will not make something just for this little, small, country, if the software is doing something illegal in the USA, Japan or France.
Come back when you know if this "latter one" is legal in the USA, France or Japan.

Edited 2006-11-25 21:33

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RE[8]: GPL software users
by dylansmrjones on Sat 25th Nov 2006 21:38 in reply to "RE[7]: GPL software users"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

Hmm...


I don't know what to think.

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RE[9]: GPL software users
by nicolasb on Sat 25th Nov 2006 21:40 in reply to "RE[8]: GPL software users"
nicolasb Member since:
2006-08-22

As i said, come back when you can say it's legal in USA or France. Then, we'll care about this issue.

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RE[8]: GPL software users
by david g on Sat 25th Nov 2006 21:51 in reply to "RE[7]: GPL software users"
david g Member since:
2005-07-08

"Ubuntu, as a distributor, don't have the right to link the kernel AND distribute it."

The GPL is not invoked unless the distribution is lawfully considered more than mere aggregation. From the GPL text:

"In addition, mere aggregation of another work not based on the Program with the Program (or with a work based on the Program) on a volume of a storage or distribution medium does not bring the other work under the scope of this License."

In my own interpretation, placing both on the install CD or in the distro's package manager is only mere aggregation.

EDIT: Clarified that the second quote from from the GPL.

Edited 2006-11-25 21:53

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RE[9]: GPL software users
by nicolasb on Sat 25th Nov 2006 21:52 in reply to "RE[8]: GPL software users"
nicolasb Member since:
2006-08-22

And putting a Vista torrent on the CD is mere aggregation. It's the user fault if they download Vista with it !

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