Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 30th Nov 2006 22:28 UTC, submitted by Phil Mellor
RISC OS "Last month, I thought I left RISC OS. After 19 years of using Acorn or Acorn-derived computers, my love affair is no longer. I sit here writing this on my Mac Mini, and very happy I am with it too. My Iyonix lies abandoned - still sitting under the desk here, but not connected. And not actually used for some time. And it's weird - because, in some strange way, I thought I would be using RISC OS forever. In January 2005, I said: 'There's people who annoy me on the RISC OS scene, and I still wouldn't think of leaving. The nice people more than cancel it out, and besides - I just couldn't really do without using RISC OS.' So what changed?"
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Earl Colby pottinger
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I basically went thru the same things as he did when I gave up my Amiga for BeOS.

The Amiga community was and still seems to be running around in circles as far as shipping the open-source version of AmigaDos they are always talking about - worse for a long time they wanted you to buy expensive custom hardware to do it.

When I moved to the Intel based BeOS it was with the knowledge that if it did not work out that I would still have a choice of a number of diffirent OSes out there that would run on my PC hardware.

Another marker that has matched my Amiga experience but not my BeOS one is the lack of exchange of info between the diffirent developers.

With BeOS/Haiku/Zeta there has been a movement of code between the diffirent OS versions.

RISC OS like the Amiga developers seems to have two camps who refuse to share common code back and fore resulting in a lot of wasted effort. Right now I am using dual monitors on BeOS using a driver that also works in Haiku and Zeta after a recompile on each, the same for my USB. I know my future use of this hardware is supportted.

RISC OS sounds like one camp may have working video drivers and the other working USB drivers - but neither will exchange code and get on with development. Instead each camp re-invents the other's work.

Edited 2006-12-01 08:00

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AmigaRobbo Member since:

In many ways the Amiga situtation is worse, two systems running on obscure PPC platforms, Amiga OS4 and MorphOS, neither of which will run on each others hardware, and I don't know much about Morphos, but there are serious issues with the makers of Amiga OS4 and hardware producers and the holders of the Amiga copyright holders, making the whole thing a bit of a joke, shame as OS4 is really good, but these stupid divisions and politics are just killing the system, even the i386 open source AROS dosn't seem to be going as well as it should due to a spliting of the groups.

Sigh... Its a sad thing to see, but I've had to do some work from home recently and have had to turn on my Windows 2000 based PC just so I can use upto date Word processors, and web browsers that'll let me into all site, including 'orrible flash ones.

And you know, Windows, although a bit horrible, if you throw enough hardware at it, does "work"..

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:

And this is something I never understood about the open source Amiga.

I have all the reference manuals that were released for the Amiga and there is a wealth of information on the internals - infact far more information than the BeBook releases about BeOS.

The x86 CPUs were starting to top 100MHz when the Amiga went out of production (and the fastest production CPU was only about 50 MHz from Commodore), there should have been no problem duplicating the Amiga OS to run on an x86 machine. Of course one would lose many of the unique features of Amiga's hardware, but it really is the software features I miss even in BeOS/Haiku. And the software could have been done. The AROS did alot of it themselves. Instead we see the Amiga community breaking up into competing groups.

I guess this is why the Haiku project has such fixed goals, every other BeOS replacement project tried to improve BeOS during the rewrite and all of them have fallen by the way-side.

Both RISC OS and the Amiga groups should have concentrated on just getting the basic code working on basic hardware. If extra hardware is wanted it should be a plug in card rather than a custom motherboard that run little else.

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