Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Dec 2006 18:35 UTC, submitted by Patrik Buckau
Features, Office "OpenOffice.org 2.1 is recommend for all users, as it represents a significant improvement over all previous versions. Among other things: multiple monitor support for Impress; improved Calc HTML export; enhanced Access support for Base; even more languages; automatic notification of updates."
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RE[4]: As RPMs
by smitty on Tue 12th Dec 2006 23:11 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: As RPMs"
smitty
Member since:
2005-10-13

And why is downloading software right off the internet considered to be 'living on the edge'? I do it all the time.

I call it that because it is software that hasn't been QA'd by your distro/OS maker, which means it might not be secure and might not have a lot of the unofficial patches distros make to fix bugs and make it more integrated. Also, if you just wait a couple of days it is done for you so there really isn't any need to get the bleeding edge version that was just released today.

So a new version of something comes out, I have to wait 2 weeks for my distro to package it for me? What if they don't?

Then you are using a pretty crappy distro, to be brutally honest. Either that or you are using something like Slackware and have chosen not to use a package manager. Or you're talking about software that can't legally be distributed by the distros, which does suck, but luckily there really isn't a whole lot of that in Linux.

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by RawMustard on Wed 13th Dec 2006 03:13 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
RawMustard Member since:
2005-10-10

This post gets a 4 rating, so that must mean Ubuntu is a pretty crapy distro? I say this because to get OpenOffice 2.1, Ubuntu users are going to have to wait till the next version after edgy which is about 5 months away!

Linux needs a way to upgrade programs other than waiting for their distro masters to feed it to them!

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RE[5]: As RPMs
by shapeshifter on Wed 13th Dec 2006 12:25 in reply to "RE[4]: As RPMs"
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2006-09-19

I call it that because it is software that hasn't been QA'd by your distro/OS maker, which means it might not be secure and might not have a lot of the unofficial patches distros make to fix bugs and make it more integrated. Also, if you just wait a couple of days it is done for you so there really isn't any need to get the bleeding edge version that was just released today.

You're full of it. And I'll call you on it too!
QA'd by a distro? Are you serious?!
OOo is a general Linux software and is meant to be distro independent. So they should also use a distro independent packaging.
And no, I don't want my distro patching anything for me.
We've had enough of that patching shit with distros like RedHat and Mandrake and the result was that nothing would compile or install on those distros.

Either that or you are using something like Slackware and have chosen not to use a package manager.
And what do you mean by that? Are you calling Slackware a crappy distro? Many would disagree with you.
Yet Slackware neither bundles nor provides official packages for OOo. Although they are available from places like Linuxpackages.
But I prefer the official files from OOo rather then trusting packages compiled by someone else.

So yes, I'd like to see a generic installer from OOo and they realy have no valid excuse not to provide one.
Sun can do it for their Java, Adobe for Flash and Mozilla for their apps so why not OOo?

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RE[6]: As RPMs
by cyclops on Wed 13th Dec 2006 12:45 in reply to "RE[5]: As RPMs"
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

Skipping the "!?" and moving to the content.

"OOo is a general Linux software and is meant to be distro independent. So they should also use a distro independent packaging."

Why? A distribution is just that not a single program, but a collection of many programs. Many of those programs have dependancies. I'll pick one Java.

"We've had enough of that patching shit with distros like RedHat and Mandrake and the result was that nothing would compile or install on those distros."

I've *never* used those distributions. I cannot comment how they have been patched, but I suspect that those distributions are simply not designed for you to compile stuff yourself, and really if they are any good, you really shouldn't have to. I suspect though you are overstating your case, or your preferance for Slackware.

"I prefer the official files from OOo rather then trusting packages compiled by someone else."

If you don't trust the person you got the distribution from seriously, why did you install it.

"Sun can do it for their Java, Adobe for Flash and Mozilla for their apps so why not OOo?"

And those applications are poor at installing; long live GPL Java, Gnash, and Iceweasel.

Edited 2006-12-13 12:59

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