Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Dec 2006 22:29 UTC, submitted by John Mills
Novell and Ximian Jeremy Allison (of Samba fame) has resigned from Novell in protest over the Microsoft-Novell patent agreement, which he calls 'a mistake' which will be 'damaging to Novell's success in the future'. His main issue with the deal, though, is "that even if it does not violate the letter of the licence, it violates the intent of the GPL licence the Samba code is released under, which is to treat all recipients of the code equally." He leaves the company at the end of this month.
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melkor
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2006-12-16

I'm merely indicating the point that Jeremy is able to realise how dangerous the Microsoft/Novell deal is, and how it breaks the spirit and intent of the GPL.

Sure, the Linux kernel developers might not think that it doesn't break the spirit of the GPL, but in all honesty, they're at odds with the wider community. Doesn't that really make you question their motives? And to be honest, I think that I rightly have the right to question the intent and morals of the current Linux kernel developer community.

I also think it's quite fair to draw a parallel between what Jeremy sees is wrong and right, and what the kernel developers feel about the very same issue (they see no problem with the Microsoft/Novell deal as a generalisation). I can only reiterate that this is worrying.

Dave

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twenex Member since:
2006-04-21

Sure, the Linux kernel developers might not think that it doesn't break the spirit of the GPL, but in all honesty, they're at odds with the wider community.

That may be true, but they're still allowed an opinion. I don't remember them saying that it doesn't break the spirit. But I DO remember Stallman saying that it doesn't contravene the letter.

Doesn't that really make you question their motives?
I question the decisions of the LKD's on many an occasion, not always publicly. But since I have no evidence that they're being bought off, for now I'll shut it on the issue.

And to be honest, I think that I rightly have the right to question the intent and morals of the current Linux kernel developer community.

Which makes you sound as if you're saying you have more right than I do. Why is that?

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melkor Member since:
2006-12-16

I didn't say you didn't have the right. You choose not to question the differences in views between Jeremy and the LKD, I choose to question them. Nothing more and nothing less. Your initial post almost implied that I shouldn't dare question the LKD.

Yes, the LKD are allowed an opinion, but we can also discuss whether the wider community feels that their opinion is what we want.

Yes, Richard said that the Microsoft/Novell agreement, as is, doesn't break the GPL v2. Note he said break. Note that the FSF does not feel that Microsoft or Novell are following the intent or spirit of the GPL with this agreement. And note, that the FSF is glad that this deal happened now, because they're modifying the draft GPL v3 to make sure that it can't happen in the future.

As Jeremy pointed out, just because you can find a [legal] loophole doesn't make it morally right to abuse it.

Linux has always been about community, but of late it's gone into different directions, with different ideals, and I personally find those ideals very worrying for the wider community. Many of the voices don't speak out on their thoughts, I do.

Dave

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dagw Member since:
2005-07-06

Linus and many of the kernel developers have different motives than the Free Software crowd, nobody has ever made any secret of this. Just because their motives are different doesn't make them wrong.

Linus wants to make the best possible kernel and make sure it is as useful as possible to as many people as possible, beyond that he is largely apolitical. This has always been the case, why should it all of a sudden become worrying now?

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