Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Dec 2006 23:59 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless HTC's eagerly anticipated entry into the ultra-mobile PC market has made an early, unscheduled appearance on the web, adding weight to the company's own admission that it could release a UMPC-like product as early as 2007. Mobile-Review has more photos [Russian, spec list in English] of the device. Don't tell me you don't (secretly) want one.
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RE[5]: I don't want one :-)
by signals on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 15:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I don't want one :-)"
signals
Member since:
2005-07-08

I'm not sure why having only wifi and bluetooth is a problem... I'm not sure why you'd want ethernet or some type of wired connection in a hand held device.

I don't want a wired connection. I want a wireless connection that I can use anywhere, not just in a wifi hotspot. My Apache gives me just that on Sprint's EVDO network.

If you're having problems connecting to a WEP protected network with the Nokia, you're doing something wrong or you have bad hardware (either a defective 770 or AP or both).

I'd give you the bug number, but I'm too lazy to look it up now. But, the 770 supports 802.11x with WSA, and supports WEP without 802.11x, but does not support 802.11x with WEP. It's an unusual configuration for a wifi network, and I don't know why our data security and telecom folks decided to use it, but the 770 doesn't support it, and I'm not the only one who is having trouble.

There's a ton of software for the Nokia, but it's not a Microsoft product, so you're definately not going to get exchange functionality. But I'd hardly blame the Nokia for not being able to connect to some proprietary network service.

It's not about blame. I'm not blaming anyone. I'm just comparing 2 products based on my (and the typical corporate user's) needs. It's really not the Nokia's fault that it doesn't integrate well with Exchange, but it still doesn't integrate well with Exchange. So, the WM5 device is a better fit for a corporate Exchange user.

Oh, and as far as software, is there much more than is listed on this page?

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006

Otherwise, I wouldn't call that a "ton of software."

If your Windows CE PDA is doing better at being a terminal than the Nokia 770, either you are doing something really, really wrong or you have a bad unit.

Well, the Nokia can't do RDP (at least not very well, no text input, etc.) so I can't log into the Windows servers in my server room. (If I had a choice they WOULD NOT run Windows, but some of the software our business needs dictate can only be run on Windows.)

Also, while the screen on the 770 makes the SSH session nicer because I can do a full-sized terminal, the lack of a real keyboard makes things very difficult for me. I can't type very quickly with the stylus-based keyboard, or the on screen thumb-board. A HW keyboard is a SERIOUS asset.

Believe me, I REALLY REALLY tried to like the Maemo device. I am, and always will be, a Unix geek. But the system just didn't work as well as I was hoping.

I also REALLY REALLY tried not to like the WM5 device, because I really don't like Microsoft very much. But, after owning and using Psions (way back in the day), Palms, Symbian smartphones, the Maemo based 770, and my HTC Apache, WM5 wins on overall functionality and suitability for my day-to-day-tasks.

Again.. To each his own. If you like your 770 best, then by all means use it. But, I can say for certain that not EVERYONE will agree.

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RE[6]: I don't want one :-)
by tmack on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 16:37 in reply to "RE[5]: I don't want one :-)"
tmack Member since:
2006-04-11

LOL, RDP doesn't count as a terminal, you should have said so earlier. ;)

As far as remote GUI access, VNC works great on the Nokia 770.

"My Apache gives me just that on Sprint's EVDO network."

Just FYI, my Nokia connects fine to my Samsung EVDO phone on Sprint's EVDO network. I use it daily. ;)

But I pity you if you have to use a Microsoft product all day. I really do.

Best of luck! ;)

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RE[7]: I don't want one :-)
by signals on Fri 22nd Dec 2006 17:26 in reply to "RE[6]: I don't want one :-)"
signals Member since:
2005-07-08

Just FYI, my Nokia connects fine to my Samsung EVDO phone on Sprint's EVDO network. I use it daily. ;)

Strange, I was never able to get that to work right... It was as though it would timeout the EVDO connection after about 60 seconds of idle time. So every time I asked for a page, it would have to "dial-up" again and I'd have to wait for the connection to be re-established. I had a Samsung phone too.

But, I think that might have been the phone, because it would do that when tethered (via bluetooth) to my Mac, too.

But I pity you if you have to use a Microsoft product all day. I really do.

Not long ago, I would've said the same thing to someone arguing for Windows Mobile. But, I've come to realize that it doesn't matter if it says "Microsoft" or "Apple" or "Linux powered." on it. What matters is if it solves the problem at hand better than its competition. I believe (in my case) that it does.

But, that being said, I still look at my phone and see the Windows logo on the Start menu and get an uneasy, sinking feeling. :-)

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