Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 23rd Dec 2006 00:48 UTC, submitted by dumbkiwi
KDE This is a response to the article yesterday on the progress of GNOME and KDE. Aaron Seigo, a lead KDE developer, sets out the current state of progress with KDE 4, pointing out that KDE 4 is on track for a release in mid 2007. "Thom points to a quote from me that our goal is to have a 4.0 ready sometime in the first half of next year. That gives us until sometime in June and I'm still thinking we can make it."
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leech
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2006-01-10

I'd really like to see some frameworks being laid down to make Gnome and KDE just work better together. I know there are already things from freedesktop.org, but what I'd like to see for example is more themes that are either cross toolkit, or that simply QT will read GTK themes and vice versa.

The problem right now is that (at least from my experience) if you use KDE and load up a Gnome application, it loads fairly quickly, since there aren't a lot of under the hood frameworks that need to be loaded. But the opposite is not true. For example, if I'm inside Gnome and load up K3b, it takes longer the first time around because it has to load up a lot of the underlying KDE system. But once I've loaded up K3b, if I then load up Konqueror, it'll be much faster, since KDE libraries have already been loaded.

I could be wrong, but I think the only thing Gnome apps usually load up is the gtk and gconf daemon. KDE mostly uses the KIO, etc.

I would also like to see Gnome being more configurable and KDE being less so. They should both be more towards a happy medium between the two. I use Gnome because I generally like the way it's set up by default though I generally change the theme. Theming for KDE on the one hand is great because you can do anything and everything. But on the other hand can be overly complex to get your set up just right. A good example of this was when I was trying to set up Baghira.

One of these days I'll do a straight no holds-barred comparison how KDE does things and how Gnome does things (for example, like configuring the time from 12 hours and 24 hours, or theming, etc. Not as a "KDE is better than Gnome" or "Gnome is better than KDE" flamewar, but as a simple "this is how each desktop environments work." Maybe if I can find the time, I'll add Windows into it. I'd add Mac OS X into it if I had access to one.)

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"They should both be more towards a happy medium between the two."

I'd much rather see them being different than melding into some bland, smallest-common-denominator borefest.

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leech Member since:
2006-01-10

That's not what I meant in the slightest. What I meant was that Gnome should have more visible configuration options and that KDE should have less. This does not mean in the slightest that they should become alike. The only thing that I think they should become alike in is things like theme support, menu support (not neccesarily layout, but at least to the point where if you install a program in the package manager, that a menu entry appears in both desktop environments. For the most part this is working now anyhow, but this is just a small example. In essence I'm saying they should work together rather than trying to just do the opposite of what the other is doing just for sake of competition.)

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