Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Dec 2006 22:21 UTC
Games Those who intend to install a Linux distribution on a Sony PlayStation 3 will be pleased to learn that Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 is now available for free download. Originally released on 27 November, Yellow Dog Linux 5.0 is a Fedora-based distribution tailored to run on Sony PlayStation 3. It features a graphical installation program and includes the Linux kernel 2.6.16, X.Org 7.0 (3D acceleration not supported), Enlightenment 17 as the default desktop (KDE 3.5.3 and GNOME 2.14 are also available), Firefox 1.5, OpenOffice.org 2.0.2 and other popular open source software applications for desktops, servers, media playback and software development.
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Re: Amazing news!
by Jeddacarn on Fri 29th Dec 2006 06:03 UTC
Jeddacarn
Member since:
2006-09-10

Selling free software, that's really ethical...

Why download their crap when you could download a Linux distro that is not so immoral?

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RE: Re: Amazing news!
by the_trapper on Fri 29th Dec 2006 06:43 in reply to "Re: Amazing news!"
the_trapper Member since:
2005-07-07

Selling free software, that's really ethical...

So you don't drink bottled water, or buy canned air Jeddacarn? Both water and air are "free" so therefore the people selling them are "immoral" right?

Maybe Yellow Dog actually *gasp* polishes up the free stuff, integrates it properly, tests it for quality, and even writes a few scripts of their own here and there just to make everything work a little better.

Unless you build your own Linux distro from scratch, they're all equally "immoral" by your standards. Which distro do you use again?

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RE[2]: Re: Amazing news!
by leech on Fri 29th Dec 2006 08:29 in reply to "RE: Re: Amazing news!"
leech Member since:
2006-01-10

Well, I don't know if I'd go as far as saying that people who sell bottled water aren't necessarily the immoral ones, though they're taking advantage of an immoral situation. If it weren't for all the companies that have ruined the water supplies for a lot of areas, we wouldn't need to drink bottled water.

Yellow Dog Linux needs to make some money like everyone else, but they're still making it available for free shortly after the release. How is this immoral? For the retail version, you get printed manuals, support, etc. That's what the cost pays for, much like Red Hat.

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RE: Re: Amazing news!
by sukru on Fri 29th Dec 2006 07:11 in reply to "Re: Amazing news!"
sukru Member since:
2006-11-19

Building a Linux distribution is not easy. Having many enhtuaistic contributors like Debian, or a wealthy owner like Ubuntu is not an option for most companies.

So they charge for some of their services (like support, documentation, building binaries, etc) in order to pay their expenses.

For an extreme example, telling hard working programmers like Alan Cox that they should not recieve a salary because RedHat should give away all their stuff for free is actually an insult to all computer engineers. (Ok, Alan no longer works for RedHat but he used to for a long time. And yes RedHat gives away all their suff for free, the example is for an anology of YellowDog situation).

Thus, as long as they give back most (or even better all) of their contributions back, I do not see a problem.

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RE[2]: Re: Amazing news!
by Rahul on Fri 29th Dec 2006 10:29 in reply to "RE: Re: Amazing news!"
Rahul Member since:
2005-07-06

"(Ok, Alan no longer works for RedHat but he used to for a long time. And yes RedHat gives away all their suff for free, the example is for an anology of YellowDog situation). "

Alan continues to work for Red Hat. Perhaps you got confused by the sabbatical he took to do his MBA a while back. Alan AT redhat.com if you need to verify.

Edited 2006-12-29 10:30

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RE: Re: Amazing news!
by eelco on Fri 29th Dec 2006 07:50 in reply to "Re: Amazing news!"
eelco Member since:
2005-07-06

Not familiar with 'free beer vs free speech'?

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RE: Re: Amazing news!
by arielb on Fri 29th Dec 2006 15:06 in reply to "Re: Amazing news!"
arielb Member since:
2006-11-15

do we have to go through this free beer vs free speech again?

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