Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 1st Jan 2007 22:30 UTC
SkyOS Hell was already frozen anyway, but apparantly, the SkyOS team is trying to bring hell's temperature to absolute zero, since they are saying 2007 might see a release of SkyOS 5. "After what seems about 30 years worth of work (I'm sure even more to Robert), SkyOS will finally be released to the public. Lots of details are still being worked out on this one (as well as the obvious issues still present in the system), but we're really shooting to make it happen."
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SkyOS of today
by sirhomer on Thu 4th Jan 2007 17:23 UTC
sirhomer
Member since:
2007-01-03

Fact of the matter is, SkyOS *right now* takes alot of memory, is slow, crashes very easily, supports almost no hardware, has very few applications, the native applications it has have very few features, and is hard to develop for. Kelly won't tell you any of this.

Edited 2007-01-04 17:24

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RE: SkyOS of today
by Robert on Thu 4th Jan 2007 17:56 in reply to "SkyOS of today"
Robert Member since:
2005-07-06

1.
Currently SkyOS requires 256 MB of memory, which isn't a "lot of memory" I think. When launching applications like Firefox with debug support and disabled swapping support you should have 384MB.

2.
What is slow?
SkyOS should boot in a few seconds (~7 seconds). The system runs quite fast even in composited VESA mode. What exactly is slow?

3. http://www.skyos.org/?q=node/560
Supports quite a lot standard hardware, it should "at least work" on almost every system. But yes, things like 3D acceleration, Firewire, .. are not yet supported. "almost no hardware" is simply completely wrong.

4. Firefox, Thunderbird, NVU, Blender3D, Pixel, GCC, Developer Studio, and many, many more. I don't think this is "very few". But yes, you will not find applications like Photoshop, Corel Draw, 3D Studio, Office,...

5. "the native applications it has have very few features"
sorry, didn't understand this one

6. hard to develop for.
Well, did you even try developing for it? SkyOS has a very clear and easy to use API, Developer Studio, Factory, Mono, C#, Pascal, GCC, Perl,....

Btw, did you post any debug report on your "crashing" issues?

Edited 2007-01-04 17:58

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RE[2]: SkyOS of today
by sirhomer on Fri 5th Jan 2007 05:48 in reply to "RE: SkyOS of today"
sirhomer Member since:
2007-01-03

1. Actually, your beta page says to have at least 512MB RAM, but 1GB recommended. Bait and switch?

2. SkyOS takes over two minutes to load on my hardware. But of course it looks fast to you, you develop it.

3. Great, you support VESA and a few Ethernet cards. Unfortunately, neither my sound card or Ethernet card works under SkyOS. However, both work out of the box on Ubuntu Linux, and both work with the proper drivers on Windows.

4. Seven programs is very few. Ubuntu main repos have what? 20,000 packages? And how much software is there for Windows? It doesn't even compare. Plus all those software packages you listed (minus the crappy Developer Studio) run on Linux and Windows as well. Except of course, they run much faster and don't bring down the entire system after one minute of operation.

5. Most "Sky OS" native applications can't be configured or have very little functionality.

6. Mono and C# are the same thing, and neither work well (how many .NET applications run on SkyOS again?). "Developer Studio" is about as powerful as Notepad. And none of the programming languages you listed can even access the Sky OS API. Other then C of course. Yes, C. Nope not C++ even. C. 1993 called, and they want their non-OO GUI development APIs back.

Fact of the matter is, SkyOS *right now* takes a lot of memory, is slow, crashes very easily, supports almost no hardware, has very few applications, the native applications it has have very few features, and is hard to develop for. Kelly or Robert won't tell you any of this..

Edited 2007-01-05 05:51

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RE: SkyOS of today
by Soulbender on Sat 6th Jan 2007 08:59 in reply to "SkyOS of today"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

"Kelly won't tell you any of this. "
Why would he? If you're too stupid to figure that out from the fact that is is an *alternative* OS in *BETA* then quite frankly you deserve to be disappointed.

Edited 2007-01-06 09:00

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