Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 11:30 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Novell and Ximian When Novell and Microsoft announced their unlikely partnership, a part of the arrangement that got little attention at the time was that they'd create a joint research facility, where both company's technical experts would collaborate on new joint software solutions. Now, they're staffing up.
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ms/novell
by happycamper on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 12:47 UTC
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2006-01-01

I personally think this deal novell made with MS might be a good one after all.

I would love to see one day Ms release a version of MS Office for Suse Enterprise Linux.

Edited 2007-02-02 12:48

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RE: ms/novell
by walterbyrd on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 13:01 in reply to "ms/novell"
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2005-12-31

The deal is a scam, designed to kill Linux. No way in hell will msft help linux. If msft honestly wanted to interoperate, all msft ever had to do, was do so. No suspecious, secretive, deal was ever required.

If msft wants to interoperate, then why is msft fighting ODF so hard? Msft is scared to death of ODF - why is that? Why is msft fighting interoperability with Samba? Why is msft fighting against the established mp3 and jpg standards? Figure it out, it's not hard.

> I would love to see one day Ms release a version of MS Office for Suse Enterprise Linux.

You won't.

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RE[2]: ms/novell
by kaiwai on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 18:28 in reply to "RE: ms/novell"
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2005-07-06

And how is licencing and paying a fee for Mp3 any less evil than having to do the same thing with wma/wmv? considering that wma/wmv are merely mpeg4 derivatives, I don't quite understand the purpose of your anti-Microsoft agenda.

For me, I use neither, I prefer using ogg and other technologies that don't crush me, and my ability to move to other operating systems easily.

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RE[3]: ms/novell
by segedunum on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 19:27 in reply to "RE: ms/novell"
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2005-07-06

And how is licencing and paying a fee for Mp3 any less evil than having to do the same thing with wma/wmv? considering that wma/wmv are merely mpeg4 derivatives

Windows Media is a proprietary technology. End of story.

For me, I use neither, I prefer using ogg and other technologies that don't crush me, and my ability to move to other operating systems easily.

Which you can't do with Windows Media, which was his point. Microsoft doesn't want you moving or interoperating, which is why they're so against doing anything with ODF.

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RE: ms/novell
by Darkelve on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 13:19 in reply to "ms/novell"
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2006-02-06

Don't hold your breath.

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RE: ms/novell
by butters on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 16:05 in reply to "ms/novell"
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2005-07-08

What Linux really needs is open specifications for communicating with Exchange Server. I don't see Exchange interoperability listed in the agreement, and I'm really disappointed in Novell for not pushing for this.

When Microsoft went into this deal, the executives must have said, "offer them interoperability, use popular buzz-words like virtualization, throw them a bone on ODF support in MS Office (they won't use it if it's not the default), but DON'T let them in on our Exchange racket."

Edited 2007-02-02 16:06

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RE[2]: ms/novell
by IanSVT on Fri 2nd Feb 2007 17:25 in reply to "RE: ms/novell"
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2005-07-06

What Linux really needs is open specifications for communicating with Exchange Server. I don't see Exchange interoperability listed in the agreement, and I'm really disappointed in Novell for not pushing for this.

I don't think there was any mention of this, mostly because it's already available. There is an Exchange connector available for Outlook/Exchange interoperability. It's GPL.

From the server end, it would be an almost inpossible task to get Exchange server modules working on Linux. They would have to port AD over if I'm not mistaken.

If you want a cross platform groupware system, use GroupWise. It works fine on mulitple platform on both the server and client(although the cross platforms GroupWise client leaves a bit to be desired).

Edited 2007-02-02 17:26

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