Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 3rd Feb 2007 16:43 UTC, submitted by mwtomlinson
Novell and Ximian The Free Software Foundation is reviewing Novell's right to sell new versions of Linux operating system software after the open-source community criticized Novell for teaming up with Microsoft. "The community of people wants to do anything they can to interfere with this deal and all deals like it. They have every reason to be deeply concerned that this is the beginning of a significant patent aggression by Microsoft," Eben Moglen, the Foundation's general counsel, said on Friday. Update: The FSF claims this is being hyped.
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RE: Emotions
by SReilly on Sun 4th Feb 2007 17:11 UTC in reply to "Emotions"
SReilly
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2006-12-28

I don't know if most people reading/posting this tread share my view but I'm willing to give Novell the benefit of the doubt. I'm not at all pissed at Novell, I think they got snared in a typical MS deal. I think they're crazy to have negotiated it in the first place but that hardly qualifies them for out and out bashing on my part.

I am very angry at MS though and so should allot of people. Their tactics stink and always have. Trying to split and turn the community against itself by using double speak seems to be the tactic at the moment. Frankly, that's unethical.

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RE[2]: Emotions
by systyrant on Mon 5th Feb 2007 04:37 in reply to "RE: Emotions"
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2007-01-18

After listening to Richard Stallman explain what he means by Free Software I have to say that I know understand why FSF and many other are upset with Novell. Although I still think Stallman is a nut job it doesn't mean he's not right.

However, I still support Novell and I still think that many of the negative comments, especially at first, were nothing more than blind hatred for Microsoft. I should point out that the comments I'm referring to are comments like the one you are reading now and not those made by people like Stallman.

I suppose I've been shown a new way of thinking about Free Software and Open Source so please forgive me if I sound contradictory to any of my previous statements. I won't say I get it, but at least I'm trying.

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RE[3]: Emotions
by SReilly on Mon 5th Feb 2007 10:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Emotions"
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2006-12-28

I know what you mean. I'm not Stallman's biggest fan but I think he's right in this case. For once I see the pragmatic side of him that allot of people that have met him speak about.

As for knee jerk statements, isn't that always the case? It's been my experience in situations like this people let they're emotions take over, fly off the handle and spout venomous hate without first thinking the situation through.

I know it looks really detrimental to GNU/Linux and I understand why people are out for blood but the bottom line seems to be that the FSF is acting in a positive manner and trying to prevent such deals from being made in the future. Hopefully Novell will have learned their lesson and we can get on with revolutionising the IT industry ;-)

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RE[3]: Emotions
by deanlinkous on Mon 5th Feb 2007 13:57 in reply to "RE[2]: Emotions"
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2006-06-19

RMS is great - when taken as a whole and when allowed to fully explain and answer questions to the fullest.

If you only get the snippets, then yes he seems unreasonable and not quite in touch with reality. But IMO he is a realist and a idealist, and when you really listen to what he says it all starts to make sense. Not a brainwashing type of "sense" but a real, honest to goodness - "hey I get it" type of sense. At least it does for me....

Actually, you should be able to realize this "sense" on your own and not need it explained but we have been brainwashed so long to not demand that things make sense that we accept it as normal now and anything else seems contrary to this is dismissed as crazy talk.

There are really only a few "ideals" you need to grasp to truly "get it" and then you will apply them across the board and it will all start making sense.

gNewSense - it is not just a distro it is a way of thinking! ;)

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