Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 17th Feb 2007 18:59 UTC, submitted by elsewhere
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y "Some bad blood between Linus Torvalds and GNOME developers is flaring up again. Previously, Torvalds has said that Linux users should switch to KDE instead of GNOME because of the GNOME team's 'users are idiots' mentality. Now he has 'put his money where his mouth is' by submitting patches to GNOME in order to have it behave as he likes. This week, on the Linux Foundation's (formerly OSDL) Desktop Architects mailing list, the two sides are going mano a mano." Can I interest you in a pair of these and these?
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RE[3]: As a Power User...
by unoengborg on Sun 18th Feb 2007 02:31 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: As a Power User..."
unoengborg
Member since:
2005-07-06

True, people usually don't know all about their car engine. That's why many parameters e.g. regarding fuel injection usually doesn't make it to the dash board. People want to be able to concentrate on the traffic around them not gauges and controls they don't know how to read or use.

No, you should not hack out the engine with an axe. You should buy a car where the user interface to the engine is simple enough for you to use it comfortably.

E.g. if you don't feel comfortable with driving with a stick, you should be able to buy a fully automatic one even if the Ferrari users of the world would claim that you are an idiot that should learn how to drive a real car.

There is Gnome and there is KDE and it is a good thing that they are different.

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RE[4]: As a Power User...
by Finalzone on Sun 18th Feb 2007 02:58 in reply to "RE[3]: As a Power User..."
Finalzone Member since:
2005-07-06

Exacty, here are other things to deal like the nasty bug on KDE that prevents it to use 24x24 icons and a better tool for GNOME to generate a theme than wasting a time arguing about preferences.

Edited 2007-02-18 03:08

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RE[4]: As a Power User...
by Yagami on Sun 18th Feb 2007 12:12 in reply to "RE[3]: As a Power User..."
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

i am sorry , but you are thinking it wrong !

the interface of kde is the same as gnome , as windows , as osx , as etc ! it was invented long ago by apple ( cof cof ) , and its called wimp.
they all use the same thing ...

and dont start saying kde interface is bloated ... it is not, as my kde interface is way less bloated than gnome ever can be. kde , does , however , have very a very bad default interface. ( unless in some distros , like open suse )

so , in terms of interface , they are all the same. the diference is under the hood !

when you open kde's hood , you may say " wow , i dont know what this is all " ... thats ok

when you open gnome's hood , you see an empty space and say " good , i didnt know what that thing was anyway "

if gnome just hid the configuration from the interface ( like kde does ) it would be nice and well though !

but it doesnt ... it removes them all together !



ps : wonder why you didnt comment about the linux part ! ;)

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RE[5]: As a Power User...
by camel on Sun 18th Feb 2007 13:32 in reply to "RE[4]: As a Power User..."
camel Member since:
2005-06-29

I am sorry, but you are thinking it wrong too:

it was invented long ago by apple ( cof cof ) , and its called wimp.

WIMP and actually most of the other stuff was invented at XEROX Parc, but apple was one of the first with actual commercial success with those concepts.

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