Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 20th Feb 2007 21:29 UTC, submitted by m_yates
Windows "There's lots to like in the newest version of Windows. Vista's look is stunning, the OS should be more secure, and finding things is often easier. But Windows wouldn't be Windows without those aspects, big and small, that just drive you nuts with frustration. Here's our list of Vista features that just make us wonder, 'What were they thinking?'"
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RE: oh no more vista!
by fretinator on Tue 20th Feb 2007 21:55 UTC in reply to "oh no more vista!"
fretinator
Member since:
2005-07-06

I disagree.

This is not another "Vista Sux" article. The authors are clear at the beginning that there are a lot features in Vista to like, and the authors seems to me to be highly-savvy Windows users. I took the article to be just another tips 'n tricks article for power users, with a few gripes about price and DRM thrown in.

This article is written by Windows users for Windows users. Most of the "Vista Sux" articles are written by Linux/Mac users for other Linux/Mac users so they can all smile smugly. This is not what I see in this article.

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RE[2]: oh no more vista!
by batdan on Tue 20th Feb 2007 22:04 in reply to "RE: oh no more vista!"
batdan Member since:
2007-01-12

fair point. I have to admit i only glanced at the article and was a little too quick to dismiss it.

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RE[3]: oh no more vista!
by cromo on Tue 20th Feb 2007 22:07 in reply to "RE[2]: oh no more vista!"
cromo Member since:
2006-06-17

Well, you've just shown yourself how flamewars work.

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RE[2]: oh no more vista!
by Luis on Tue 20th Feb 2007 22:20 in reply to "RE: oh no more vista!"
Luis Member since:
2006-04-28

Yes, I agree. It's an article written by Windows user for Windows users. But the conclusions are quite the same:

- Only Vista Ultimate is a real upgrade. And it's far too expensive: $400 in the USA, $780 (!) in the EU (with that price I guess they assume they're not going to sell many -if any at all- original boxed copies in the EU).

- Pros: Nice interface. Desktop search. Better security (?)

- Cons: Too many annoyances (UAC and Graphic cards drivers being the most important).

I guess Mac/Linux users aren't going to switch to Windows Vista. But are Windows users going to upgrade to it? Looks to me like only uninformed ones will upgrade (to be disappointed), but the rest will wait quite a bit before doing it (or will even consider a switch to Mac/Linux).

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RE[3]: oh no more vista!
by stare on Wed 21st Feb 2007 00:03 in reply to "RE[2]: oh no more vista!"
stare Member since:
2005-07-06

- Only Vista Ultimate is a real upgrade. And it's far too expensive: $400 in the USA, $780 (!) in the EU (with that price I guess they assume they're not going to sell many -if any at all- original boxed copies in the EU).

Except it's $200-250 in USA and EU.
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=vista+ultimate+oem&btnG=Search+...

Pros: Nice interface. Desktop search. Better security (?)

Massive core stability and performance improvemnts (GUI separation from kernel, prioritized I/O, SMP and NUMA enchancements, significant new memory manager features,), file versions snapshots ("Previous Versions")
DirectX 10
new audio stack with per-application volume control, reworked networking stack with many performance and scalability advantages
redesigned print architecture with improved use of color management
native UDF write capability
native Bluetooth 2.0 support
speech recognition

... and many other features

Cons: Too many annoyances (UAC and Graphic cards drivers being the most important).

UAC can be switched off if it annoys you.

I guess Mac/Linux users aren't going to switch to Windows Vista

Why not? I guess many Mac and Linux users will switch to Vista, while few Windows users will switch to Mac and nobody to Linux.

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RE[3]: oh no more vista!
by kaiwai on Wed 21st Feb 2007 03:35 in reply to "RE[2]: oh no more vista!"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I guess Mac/Linux users aren't going to switch to Windows Vista. But are Windows users going to upgrade to it? Looks to me like only uninformed ones will upgrade (to be disappointed), but the rest will wait quite a bit before doing it (or will even consider a switch to Mac/Linux).

Uninformed ones? excuse me, I've upgraded, and I certainly don't class myself as 'uninformed' - its not my fault that you've been hiding under a rock for the past several years, failing to digest the enhancements made to Windows.

Oh, and btw, I would move to Linux; too bad the applications I want aren't available, and the alternatives are absolutely crap; OpenOffice.org being the el-supremo example of crap-o-la software; but hey, its from Sun, bloated and slow, just like their development studio written in Java.

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RE[3]: oh no more vista!
by camo r on Wed 21st Feb 2007 04:13 in reply to "RE[2]: oh no more vista!"
camo r Member since:
2005-08-26

Blogger please, enough already. Uninformed people (according to you) would upgrade and even if disappointed will stay with it. The rest will just stay with XP and not even consider switching to *nix/mac. Period.

UAC, only annoying if you leave the full screen prompt on. Switch that off and it's not soo bad to live with.

Graphics drivers, not a problem here. Used both the windows wddm drivers and ATI's drivers. Working great.

All drivers are working great and my usual progs are buzzing along. And this is on a somewhat unsupported platform, a mac.

Call me uninformed and impressed here.

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RE[3]: oh no more vista!
by drfelip on Wed 21st Feb 2007 13:40 in reply to "RE[2]: oh no more vista!"
drfelip Member since:
2005-07-06

Even the extremelly basic Basic edition sells for 390 $. And they are surprised that Vista's sales are lower than expected? Wow...

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