Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 20:01 UTC
Windows "Windows Vista has been available to consumers for nearly a month now. Many new and revamped PCs incorporating Microsoft's latest operating system have been released, with lots more on the way. So far, we've looked at a range of Vista desktops from gaming rigs to all-in-one PCs to low-end machines, and by and large, we've liked what we've seen." By the way, some people really go to great lengths to... Well, I don't know.
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blind marketing
by TechGeek on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 22:06 UTC
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2006-01-14

I think a lot of it is wishful thinking and blind marketing. I saw a computer on sale this week with Vista preinstalled. It was a 3.o Ghz P4 (not dual core or anything) with 512 MB ram. How the heck is that suppose to run Vista? It doesnt even meet the minimum specs. What kind of crap experience is the user going to have with that machine when they finally get it home and turned on? A friend of mine who is a tech just recently bought a Dell desktop, and returned it in less than a week because she couldnt get decent drivers for any of her peripherals. She bought a new machine and paid extra to have XP on it instead. Too many people believe MS can do no wrong.

Edited 2007-02-23 22:07

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RE: blind marketing
by Thom_Holwerda on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 22:39 in reply to "blind marketing"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

How the heck is that suppose to run Vista? It doesnt even meet the minimum specs. What kind of crap experience is the user going to have with that machine when they finally get it home and turned on?

I am running vista comfortably on a 1.73Ghz Pentium M with 768MB RAM and an Ati Radeon x300 with 128MB of dedicated RAM.

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RE[2]: blind marketing
by kaiwai on Sat 24th Feb 2007 04:33 in reply to "RE: blind marketing"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Sounds similar to my setup; I have a Toshiba A100 (review http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1733035099;fp;32768;fpid... ), specs are on that page - and Windows Vista runs bloody well, its faster, more stable and more reliable than Windows XP SP2 with all the latest patches.

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RE[2]: blind marketing
by raver31 on Sat 24th Feb 2007 07:40 in reply to "RE: blind marketing"
raver31 Member since:
2005-07-06

Yes, it will run in that spec, Vista needs 720MB to load, but can you do anything useful with it ?

And can you do a comparison with the same machine running XP ?

768mb is just a little too close to having to use the swap file...

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RE: blind marketing
by Almafeta on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 23:03 in reply to "blind marketing"
Almafeta Member since:
2007-02-22

I had a similar problem with my mother. She purhcased a Dell system with Windows XP when said system had less than half the reccomended amount of memory. It ran at a crawl, and it took a lot of tweaking to get it to anything near reasonable operating speeds.

The people who run large hardware corporations are usually not very aware of how computers work.

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RE: blind marketing
by jayson.knight on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 23:15 in reply to "blind marketing"
jayson.knight Member since:
2005-07-06

"She bought a new machine and paid extra to have XP on it instead."

Then your friend is a fool. MS is providing downgrade licenses to XP for OEM customers. She's also a fool for not testing out Vista first (if she's a tech, I'm assuming she had a machine laying around...at the very least she could have partitioned it, installed Vista, and tested out drivers).

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RE[2]: blind marketing
by Nathan O. on Sat 24th Feb 2007 05:33 in reply to "RE: blind marketing"
Nathan O. Member since:
2005-08-11

Wow. She's a fool? She was supposed to know these things?

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RE: blind marketing
by A.O.K. on Sat 24th Feb 2007 05:15 in reply to "blind marketing"
A.O.K. Member since:
2006-11-02

I agree. XP, and then probably Vista, needs a dual-core for an enjoyable experience. A high-end machine, seems to work very well with XP.

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RE: blind marketing
by mallard on Sat 24th Feb 2007 12:13 in reply to "blind marketing"
mallard Member since:
2006-01-06

Windows Vista Minimum Requirements (See bottom of page):
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/editions/sys...

A 3Ghz P4 with 512MB of RAM does meet the minimum requirements fairly comfortably. As long as it has a supported video card (almost any DX9 card), all it needs to run well is another 512MB of RAM.

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