Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Feb 2007 17:38 UTC, submitted by anonymous
Debian and its clones Last September, some of the Debian Linux distribution's leadership wanted to make sure that Etch, the next version of Debian, arrived on its December 4th due date. Almost two months later, though, according to the February 17th Release Critical Bug Report memo to the Debian Developers Announcement list, there are still 541 release critical bugs.
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Again, Debian can't make it right.
by B. Janssen on Sat 24th Feb 2007 13:02 UTC
B. Janssen
Member since:
2006-10-11

It is always funny to read the comments of desktop users in comparison to comments from system builders or even distribution builders.

Users complain about slow release cycles, huge delays, etc. in releasing a stable Debian, a distribution that only secondarily is targeted at them. System builders are happy with stable releases about every 18 to 24 months and cope well with delays, finally distribution builders are moving away from Debian because Debian's development branches -- the ones they would like to use to make a fresher impression to the community than Debian does -- are moving too fast!

Linspire, Mepis & Co. base off Ubuntu because Ubuntu stabilizes a more interesting subset of Debian once in a while. Just recall the statements by Mepis' chief developer or check out what tool-chain Edgy Eft is using... you will be surprised to note that it on average is older than Etch's. While i think Mr. Shuttleworth had something different in mind, he was right when he said Debian can't be everything for everybody. And to bring in another obscure reference, Debian is the compiz of the distributions, well thought out, deliberate and rock solid. I'll prefer it in high availability scenarios over Ubuntu anytime, just because it is so serious about its quality.

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deb2006 Member since:
2006-06-26

"Users complain about slow release cycles, huge delays, etc. in releasing a stable Debian, a distribution that only secondarily is targeted at them."

Huh? I somehow seem to have lost the target group of Debian. I always thought it was for users ...
Sometimes it's good to go back to Ian Murdock and read about his vision for Debian - then:
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ap-manifesto.en.h...

" (...) It will eventually be distributed by The Free Software Foundation on CD-ROM, and The Debian Linux Association will offer the distribution on floppy disk and tape along with printed manuals, technical support and other end-user essentials. All of the above will be available at little more than cost, and the excess will be put toward further development of free software for all users. (...) The Debian design process is open to ensure that the system is of the highest quality and that it reflects the needs of the user community. (...) Involving others also ensures that valuable suggestions for improvement can be incorporated into the distribution during its development; thus, a distribution is created based on the needs and wants of the users rather than the needs and wants of the constructor. (...)"

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