Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 7th Mar 2007 18:05 UTC, submitted by Luis
Linux Complaining about Windows Vista is a national past time on Internet forums these days. Windows Vista 'costs too much', 'has onerous product activation', 'requires too much hardware', etc. These complaints are often followed up by a very simple boast: 'I'm just going to switch to Linux'. But in today's landscape, how viable is that statment? Is the threat to switch to Linux an empty one, or is it entirely possible?"
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64bit
by unoengborg on Wed 7th Mar 2007 18:35 UTC
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2005-07-06

With both Mac OS X and Vista in 64-bit versions, Linux can no longer lag behind if it expects to be taken seriously.

It should be noted that 64bit on windows isn't exactly a dance on roses. The performance benefits from using 64bits are small if any regardless if you use windows or Linux. My advice would be to stay away from 64 bit boxes if you don't need the additional address space that 64bit offers.

As far as I know there are no specific problems with 64bit macs but the Apple situation is somewhat different as Apple controls the hardware, and the Linux test was performed on hardware not specifically selected to run Linux.

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RE: 64bit
by TaterSalad on Wed 7th Mar 2007 18:41 in reply to "64bit"
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2005-07-06

I wouldn't tell people not to use 64bit OS's. There may not be a lot of applications that take advantage of it but that doesn't mean there won't be in the future. As more people upgrade they will only be able to find 64bit chips and manufacturers will start producing more 64bit applications, then pretty soon everything will be 64bit. Its kind of like when we went from Windows 3.11 16bit to win95/98 32bit. Its very rare to find a 16bit application nowadays.

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RE[2]: 64bit
by kaiwai on Wed 7th Mar 2007 21:20 in reply to "RE: 64bit"
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2005-07-06

Excuse me, that has to be the worse comparison I've ever seen; the move to 64bit will be *nothing* like the move from 16bit to 32bit.

Move from 16bit to 32bit yeilded protected memory, pre-emptive multi-tasking, fine grain threading and so forth; the move from 32bit to 64bit yielding alot less for the amount of pain it is actually bringing to the party.

90% of people who use their laptop for 'ordinary stuff' won't *need* what 64bit brings; the hardware they buy can't handle the amount of memory of which 64bit claims to support, if they want more than 4gigs, the current 32bit CPU's can support it by virtue of PAE.

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RE[2]: 64bit
by Isolationist on Wed 7th Mar 2007 22:36 in reply to "RE: 64bit"
Isolationist Member since:
2006-05-28

No Sh!t Sherlock.

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RE: 64bit
by anda_skoa on Wed 7th Mar 2007 18:49 in reply to "64bit"
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2005-07-07

With both Mac OS X and Vista in 64-bit versions, Linux can no longer lag behind if it expects to be taken seriously.

I haven't read the article yet, but if they really complain about 64-bit Linux "lagging behind" they probably should check a resource about computing history, because Linux has been supporting more 64-bit architectures than Windows and OS X together for years.

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RE[2]: 64bit
by HappyGod on Thu 8th Mar 2007 04:41 in reply to "RE: 64bit"
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2005-10-19

It's not just the lack of a 64-bit option, but the default Gnome theme now looks really old.

The windows are kind of OK, but the mouse-grey task-bar and Gnome-bar are very Windows 95.

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RE: 64bit
by rayiner on Wed 7th Mar 2007 19:02 in reply to "64bit"
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2005-07-06

Given that a 64-bit version of OS X isn't even out yet...

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RE: 64bit
by l3v1 on Wed 7th Mar 2007 20:06 in reply to "64bit"
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2005-07-06

With both Mac OS X and Vista in 64-bit versions, Linux can no longer lag behind if it expects to be taken seriously.

Well, it's pretty weird reacting to such lines from a ~1 year old 64 bit gentoo install with a 64 bit debian in the vicinity. You know what, I'll just lag with them a bit more longer here :]

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RE: 64bit
by Drawnstories_studios on Thu 8th Mar 2007 03:36 in reply to "64bit"
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2005-12-12

ummmn dude, you do realize that Mandriva had a fully operational 64bit version the week AMD_64 hit shelves. Linux was flying through the 64 bit world way before microsoft would even acknowledge it as a viable platform...

More over, Linux has more that's compiled to true 64 bit where windows just skirts around it.

All this said, 64bit linux was hell to live through for me, primarily because I insisted on having true binaries of eveything so I compiled eveything I had for like a year and a half.

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