Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 17th Mar 2007 00:26 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu During my 8 years of Linux on and off usage I have tried more distros than I have chocolate bars. Each one of my previous encounters meant that I had to spend at least 2 days configuring before I have a desktop that I was somewhat comfortable with. With Ubuntu Feisty Fawn's latest test beta --for the first time ever-- this was not the case. I was up and running with all the niceties I wanted within 2 hours.
Thread beginning with comment 222186
To view parent comment, click here.
To read all comments associated with this story, please click here.
RE: It is the stupid little issues
by lemur2 on Sat 17th Mar 2007 10:52 UTC in reply to "It is the stupid little issues"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

//Like having to STILL FUTZ with the xorg.conf for modelines on plug and play monitors that report their rates and modes properly. X is STILL the only system that has EVER 'required' this nonsense... Sure, the option to manually futz with them is cute, but beyond the skills of most beginners and the patience of many old hats. //

Both PCLinuxOS ans SuSe (at least) have GUI "control panel" equivalents for video driver parameters adjustment.

The one in PCLinuxOS/Mandriva is called XFdrake.

The one in SuSe is part of Yast.

There is at least one xorg.conf GUI editor for Ubuntu ... it is called xorg-edit.

http://www.cyskat.de/dee/progxorg.htm

AFAIK this utility is not part of the default set of Ubuntu packages.

Reply Parent Score: 2

superstoned Member since:
2005-07-07

you can also just use the Kubuntu tools for this, configuring X has been no problem in Kubuntu for years. Ubuntu is sometimes behind in weird ways (eg I couldn't live without a decent CD burning tool like K3B, or a menu editor). The new gnome also catches up in the security area, finally offering encryption & signing of files and emails. It's getting better, and ahead of windows anyway ;-)

Reply Parent Score: 2

slight Member since:
2006-09-10

Install brasero or gnomebaker from the main repos for a k3b-like CD burner. Also there is a menu editor, right click the applications menu and select 'edit menus'.

Reply Parent Score: 2

deathshadow Member since:
2005-07-12

>> Both PCLinuxOS ans SuSe (at least) have GUI
>> "control panel" equivalents for video driver
>> parameters adjustment.


Which is all fine and good if you can even get X STARTED in the first place (GUI app less X = /fail/ at life) - which with the increase in off-aspect resolution (aka widescreen) displays, is increasingly unlikely.

Sorry, TRY AGAIN.

Reply Parent Score: 1

lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

>> Both PCLinuxOS ans SuSe (at least) have GUI
>> "control panel" equivalents for video driver
>> parameters adjustment.

{ Which is all fine and good if you can even get X STARTED in the first place (GUI app less X = /fail/ at life) - which with the increase in off-aspect resolution (aka widescreen) displays, is increasingly unlikely.

Sorry, TRY AGAIN.
}

True.

However, it is far more likely that you won't be able to get your GUI started on a fresh install of Windows, especially Windows Vista, than it is on Ubuntu.

Also, Ubuntu Fiesty is a liveCD install. You put in the liveCD, and if X starts (as it will in 99.9% of cases), then you have no problem. If X doesn't start, then you are no worse off than before you put in the liveCD. Take the liveCD out, and either throw it away and give up, or go online with your existing setup and seek help in Ubuntu user forums. In a day or so, someone is likely to be able to tell you how to get X up & running, or tell you that it doesn't work in Feisty, perhaps you should go with PCLinuxOS for your hardware? (or some similar advice).

Sorry, TRY AGAIN.

PS: I know that some Linux distribution liveCDs will allow you to enter boot parameters to use VESA modes, or even fall back to VESA modes if your display setup fails for X, but I'm not sure if Ubuntu does this or not ... as I've never had a problem myself.

PPS: If you really, really want Ubuntu, and in the unlikely event that no-one on user forums can tell you how to get it going, then run another liveCD that does configure X correctly (try KNOPPIX, MEPIS or PCLinuxOS), then once that liveCD is running on your target machine, copy the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a USB stick, then re-boot your target machine with the Ubuntu liveCD in text mode. Then copy from your USB stick back to /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and follow by typing 'startx'.

Edited 2007-03-19 10:49

Reply Parent Score: 2