Linked by Eugenia Loli on Sat 17th Mar 2007 00:26 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu During my 8 years of Linux on and off usage I have tried more distros than I have chocolate bars. Each one of my previous encounters meant that I had to spend at least 2 days configuring before I have a desktop that I was somewhat comfortable with. With Ubuntu Feisty Fawn's latest test beta --for the first time ever-- this was not the case. I was up and running with all the niceties I wanted within 2 hours.
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RE[2]: Desktop search?
by pcdoctor on Sun 18th Mar 2007 12:33 UTC in reply to "Desktop search?"
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Member since:
2007-03-05

Yes, there's a switch happening.
It's now 2007, and Operating Systems (all of them) are maturing and refining themselves to the point where almost any average user can install and use them with little problem.
DOS is dead, Command Line is arcane and becoming un-necessary,
and Ease-of-Use is now paramount if you want any kinda market share.
Yes..the vote is being split, and even I am fooling around with Linux(Ubuntu!) SUCCESSFULLY,
after much dabbling and returning to Windoze: that says a LOT.
Look for more switching as Ubuntu refines itself, and as Freespire gets advanced.
Linux is on the brink of Arriving - it's about bloody time, dontcha think?

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RE[3]: Desktop search?
by Doc Pain on Sun 18th Mar 2007 18:52 in reply to "RE[2]: Desktop search?"
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2006-10-08

"Command Line is arcane and becoming un-necessary, "

In oppisite to any GUI solution, the command line is fully programmable. Complex operations can be solved using the command line, commands can be combined in many ways. GUIs only offer what its inventor / designer has thought of. Furthermore, the oppisite, i. e. operations without any complexity, are usually easier to be solved using a CLI.

Have read / written a manual today? You need to describe pictures (or show them, using much space on the paper), instruct the user how to click (left, middle, right, double, with dragging etc.) on what little pictures, and train them to recognize similar functions with different icons. Sometimes, believe me, it's easier to tell some newbie just to open Konsole and input a few words. (BTW, using the CLI is usually called "writing" in Germany.) Hell, he even can copy & paste the commands! But he cannot copy & paste mouse clicks.

I had this trouble with my uncle wanting to initialize a new hard disk with KDE. He didn't get it, allthough he tried two hours. So I told him to enter "newfs -U /dev/ad2" in Konsole and the work was done. Because I don't know his "pictures" (how the GUI looks like), I could not tell him where he would have found the proper GUI tool for this operation. Please get me right, I'm sure KDE has such a tool, but I'm not a living KDE manual. That's complicated to explain to newbies if they get confused because you as a professional don't know where the icons on *their* system are located and how they look like and what they do.

Allthough I agree that the many good GUI solutions on Linux (KDE, Gnome, XFCE etc.) will gain them more and more usage share (and my oh holy "market share"), CLI still is a *must have* for professional system administrators and operators. If everything fails, /bin/sh is still there to help you. :-)

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