Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 17:52 UTC, submitted by alexorizor
Zeta Bernd Korz has announced that the Zeta development team and Magnussoft are parting ways [German]. The team and Bernd will continue to develop Zeta, and the service pack (Zeta v1.51) will still be released in the coming weeks.
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RE[5]: I'm no expert
by Vibe on Sun 25th Mar 2007 11:05 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: I'm no expert"
Vibe
Member since:
2007-03-12

Thom, your examination of Zeta's legitimacy and management is weak, and position on copyright equally weak. Bernd's claim to distribution "rights" is vague at best, and the origination of the source doubtful with the Dano source leak. Your view on copyright is totally inaccurate. There is no such legal entity as "abandonware" and your promotion of such work is complicit.

Both Zeta and OS News are backed into a corner. I've put both to the test and all you can do is run away and hide, shout, or pass juvenile insults. Whether you want to admit it or not both of you are a few shades short of credibility. That's not just me saying so, that's the reality of your own actions. That's not my problem. Carry on as you are. It's your loss, not mine.

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RE[6]: I'm no expert
by vasper on Sun 25th Mar 2007 11:16 in reply to "RE[5]: I'm no expert"
vasper Member since:
2005-07-22

vibe, why is OSNews backed into a corner? Because you don't know if Zeta is legal? OSNews really couldn't care less about what you know or don't know. They report the news and they try to keep up a civil discussion. If I tell you I know it is legal will you stop bashing everybody?

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RE[7]: I'm no expert
by Vibe on Sun 25th Mar 2007 11:38 in reply to "RE[6]: I'm no expert"
Vibe Member since:
2007-03-12

vibe, why is OSNews backed into a corner? Because you don't know if Zeta is legal? OSNews really couldn't care less about what you know or don't know. They report the news and they try to keep up a civil discussion. If I tell you I know it is legal will you stop bashing everybody?

Oh, you and Thom know Zeta is legal. Where's the proof? Bernd and Co have never come up with anything other than smiles and warm handshakes. Given the questions over the distribution "rights" and provenance of the source, nothing short of an independently verified contract can clear this. So far, I see no proof that you know anything.

You and Thom are skidding on thin ice as both your treatments of copyright law aren't correct. The Berne Convention is very clear about what is and isn't covered by copyright, that it cannot be transfered without explicit authorisation, and you don't have that. Unless, of course, you have proof but I expect your legal opinion and proof is as hazy as Thom and Bernd's.

Zeta and BeOS Max can swivel as far as I care. Haiku is legally clear as it's a new work and its source isn't in doubt. Perhaps Zeta and BeOS Max can play a fringe role in building up interest but Haiku is where the main action is. Dreams are fine but the rubber has to hit the road sometime. Given the circumstances, I expect any serious financier or customer thinks the same.

Edited 2007-03-25 11:40

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