Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 23rd Mar 2007 17:52 UTC, submitted by alexorizor
Zeta Bernd Korz has announced that the Zeta development team and Magnussoft are parting ways [German]. The team and Bernd will continue to develop Zeta, and the service pack (Zeta v1.51) will still be released in the coming weeks.
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RE[6]: I'm no expert
by vasper on Sun 25th Mar 2007 11:16 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: I'm no expert"
vasper
Member since:
2005-07-22

vibe, why is OSNews backed into a corner? Because you don't know if Zeta is legal? OSNews really couldn't care less about what you know or don't know. They report the news and they try to keep up a civil discussion. If I tell you I know it is legal will you stop bashing everybody?

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RE[7]: I'm no expert
by Vibe on Sun 25th Mar 2007 11:38 in reply to "RE[6]: I'm no expert"
Vibe Member since:
2007-03-12

vibe, why is OSNews backed into a corner? Because you don't know if Zeta is legal? OSNews really couldn't care less about what you know or don't know. They report the news and they try to keep up a civil discussion. If I tell you I know it is legal will you stop bashing everybody?

Oh, you and Thom know Zeta is legal. Where's the proof? Bernd and Co have never come up with anything other than smiles and warm handshakes. Given the questions over the distribution "rights" and provenance of the source, nothing short of an independently verified contract can clear this. So far, I see no proof that you know anything.

You and Thom are skidding on thin ice as both your treatments of copyright law aren't correct. The Berne Convention is very clear about what is and isn't covered by copyright, that it cannot be transfered without explicit authorisation, and you don't have that. Unless, of course, you have proof but I expect your legal opinion and proof is as hazy as Thom and Bernd's.

Zeta and BeOS Max can swivel as far as I care. Haiku is legally clear as it's a new work and its source isn't in doubt. Perhaps Zeta and BeOS Max can play a fringe role in building up interest but Haiku is where the main action is. Dreams are fine but the rubber has to hit the road sometime. Given the circumstances, I expect any serious financier or customer thinks the same.

Edited 2007-03-25 11:40

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RE[8]: I'm no expert
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 25th Mar 2007 14:56 in reply to "RE[7]: I'm no expert"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Oh, you and Thom know Zeta is legal. Where's the proof?


You are starting to work on my nerves here, sonny. When person abc accuses person pqr of crime xyz, it is person abc's job to provide the evidence; it is not the task of person pqr to prove his innocence. This is the very basis of modern, civilised justice systems, and your lack of understanding of this concept speaks volumes about a number of things, including, but not limited to, your age.

Haiku is legally clear as it's a new work and its source isn't in doubt.


Oh, really? Who knows the Haiku developers were not looking at the leaked Dano code when writing Haiku (1)? Try and disprove that, sonny.

Perhaps Zeta and BeOS Max can play a fringe role in building up interest but Haiku is where the main action is.


Let's see which of these projects has the most users, then we'll talk about who's playing the fringe role (2).

(1) Obviously this is not the case; I am just trying to convey a point.
(2) Haiku rules, but for now, they are the ones playing the fringe role, with probably not more than 3 people and a cow using Haiku.

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RE[8]: I'm no expert
by vasper on Sun 25th Mar 2007 20:37 in reply to "RE[7]: I'm no expert"
vasper Member since:
2005-07-22

vibe, have you ever heard of NDAs ? Several of those have been signed, and that is as far as I can prove anything. You don't like that, or you think it isn't enough. Good. Don't buy the product that is being sold. Further than that it is you that has to prove anything. How do you know Zeta is illegal? Do you have proof? Do you know of anyone who has claimed so, or is loosing money by what Bernd and his team is doing? Of course not. So bashing Bernd, or me on the subject of legality of Zeta is a null point... you know null right? cp point /dev/null

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