Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 25th Mar 2007 17:44 UTC, submitted by suka
Mono Project In a recent interview with the online edition of the Austrian daily Newspaper Der Standard, Mono project-lead Miguel de Icaza pleads for a cooperation between Mono and Microsoft's .Net: "I think that the deal should include a technical Mono/.NET collaboration, and even go as far as Microsoft recommending Mono for all of their developers looking at migration."
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RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Moochman on Tue 27th Mar 2007 19:15 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: I do like GNOME, but:"
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You're quite clueless regarding the antipathy towards Java, whether it's open source or not. You make the same bad logical analysis that developers are going to flock to Java just because it's almost open source.

You talk about Java as if no one uses it. Sounds to me like you personally don't use it, so you maintain this illusion to justify your decision to yourself.

Java is hated for various reasons

In other words, you hate it, for reasons you don't care to disclose.

Java will be ignored only a little less than it is now.

You're right, it's just being ignored so much.

And no one's interested in developing anything new for Java on the desktop.

Sorry, you seem to be blinded by your own prejudices. Please, go back to your hole.

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RE[4]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Lambda on Wed 28th Mar 2007 04:16 in reply to "RE[3]: I do like GNOME, but:"
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Please try to pay attention. Eclipse, limewire, or any of the others in your list have nothing to do with Gnome.

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RE[5]: I do like GNOME, but:
by Moochman on Thu 29th Mar 2007 06:22 in reply to "RE[4]: I do like GNOME, but:"
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You have a point, but my point is, Java already has quite a bit of traction on the desktop, and Gnome is in a position to join in. If they don't, then Gtk-based apps may just end up getting left behind by applications that are not Gtk-based, but instead SWT or Swing-based, yet still integrate nearly seamlessly with the Gtk look-and-feel (not to mention Windows and Mac L&Fs). A lot of projects, particularly those not confined to the Linux community, are interested in the idea of compile-once, run-everywhere. Gtk+ by itself does not fulfill that goal; Mono only goes halfway there.

P.S. I forgot to mention that the mathematics software Maple and the modelling tool/IDE Visual Paradigm are also written in Java. Again, not Gtk-based, but pretty visible and important apps that run across Windows, Linux and Mac. Yes, they are commercial and not open-souce, so you may count them out of the "Linux desktop" equation if you feel like it; I'm just pointing out the potential that has already proven to exist for implementing large, complex Java desktop apps.

Edited 2007-03-29 06:28

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