Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 17:13 UTC, submitted by davidiwharper
Novell and Ximian "The Free Software Foundation has published a third draft of the GPL3 license. The FSF had indicated leading up to this draft that it would be addressing some concerns it had with the Novell-Microsoft agreements in the draft. Here's Novell's position on the new draft."
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GPL and the Linux Community
by Southern.Pride on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 19:43 UTC
Southern.Pride
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2006-09-14

Recent events and the news coverage have been so derogatory towards Novell and I do not see SUSE in the way the Linux Community sees it. One has to think about the whole picture not just the small slice of the pie Novellís revenues is up and SLES is a solid robust operating system built for the Enterprise and SLED a first class OS for the desktop. If anything Microsoft make SUSE Linux legitimate by listening to the customer stating they want both solutions in the Enterprise. It would be nice if the rhetoric would cease because it does not help the case of free software it hampers it by creating tension and strife. There is plenty of room in the market place and Linux is not going away no matter what this situation brings out.

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RE: GPL and the Linux Community
by butters on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 20:09 in reply to "GPL and the Linux Community"
butters Member since:
2005-07-08

The issue here isn't how great SLED, SLES, and OpenSUSE are, or how much Novell has contributed. It's about our IP rights, the only thing that can effectively make Linux "go away." That's the big picture. Novell's revenue and Microsoft's validation is the small slice of the pie.

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RE: GPL and the Linux Community
by Rehdon on Tue 3rd Apr 2007 20:11 in reply to "GPL and the Linux Community"
Rehdon Member since:
2005-07-06

The FOSS community looks at the whole picture, that's why people are so upset by this deal: in the bigger scheme of things this is not a simple "let's interoperate" deal, which nobody could sensibly object (after all, isn't that the aim of the SAMBA project? you know, those pesky Linux zealots wanting to interoperate with the MS servers?), but it's an attempt to divide the community to conquer it. And a quite successful attempt, at least in the "corporate community" (is there such a thing?), judging from your comment.

In fact, thanks to this deal, the Linux users are now divided in "the haves" and "the have nots": have (not) what? Why, but Microsoft's blessing in running Linux, don't you know? because there's so much MS IP in Linux, somewhere, so you got to have their blessing to run Linux. And no, you don't get to know what this IP is, that'd be too easy.

"Listening to customer" is MS' mantra to justify anything they do: who is creating tension and strife here? could that be MS' FUD (TM)? the "what a nice little OS you have there, now fork some money because it'd be a shame having somethin' happening to it" perhaps?

Well, d'you know what? there's a reason why it's called free software, and that's just because we want to be free from this racketeering scheme, free from greedy corporations, free from the "oh I will eat that bug if you give me enough money" mentality. The day we'll need MS' blessing to run Linux will never arrive. You call that "rhetoric", I call it "sound principles".

Rehdon

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RE: GPL and the Linux Community
by lemur2 on Wed 4th Apr 2007 03:16 in reply to "GPL and the Linux Community"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

{If anything Microsoft make SUSE Linux legitimate by listening to the customer }

Microsoft don't have any rights to Linux.

Therefore, Microsoft have nothing to license to Linux customers.

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