Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 10th Apr 2007 20:57 UTC
Zeta A new development in the Zeta legality issue: BeOSFrance says to have written confirmation from Jean-Louis Gassee that to JLG's knowledge, YellowTAB did not have an agreement with Palmsource [French]. My French isn't exactly what it should be (I should've paid more attention during high school), but with the help of Adam and others we managed to translate the most important bit: "The impropriety and absence of an agreement between yellowTAB and PalmSource (at the time, still the owner of the BeOS IP) had been confirmed to me in writing by the person best-placed to talk about it in those circumstances: Jean-Louis Gassee."
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Knew This Along
by sirhalos on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:20 UTC
sirhalos
Member since:
2007-04-04

They were a lot of us that felt that there was no agreement with BeOS or Palm and that Yellowtab and Zeta were illegal.

I knew it all along and as far as Zeta dying I personally think that it died because more people didn't trust the product.

I bought and purchased BeOS 5 Pro and I know others that did as well and loved the product but I was not about to invest money into Yellowtab and Zeta. The biggest complaint I have to this date after finding out this information is through all those years OSNews stood up to Zeta and made claims that it was ridiculous that we even think that the product is illegal.

OSNews has to responsibility to report the news accordingly and ask the questions we all asked and receive the mail accurately. OSNews failed to do this and stood up to Zeta and what it stood for and they were a lot of us that were against it and felt it was illegal and jumped boat to believing and saying it was legal with not evidence. Now that we know it's illegal I feel OSNews should post an apology to us as a community for sponsoring Zeta and sending propaganda that it was legal.

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RE: Knew This Along
by vasper on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:42 in reply to "Knew This Along"
vasper Member since:
2005-07-22

OSNews reported the news, and since there wasn't anyone with proof that the OS was illegal this wasn't news. Once there was an official statement it was reported as news too. You can't hold OSNews responsible for what it didn't predict.

Personally I invested in BeOS, Zeta and Haiku, and I don't see why I should follow other people claims on what I should or shouldn't invest into based on hunches or predictions or feelings. If you had any proof of yellowTabs wrongdoings (or anyone else for that matter) you should of come out. But you didn't. So blaming OSNews is kind of a Null point.

I don't see anyone blaming the German government for giving yellowTab a license to operate...

Edited 2007-04-11 18:45

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RE[2]: Knew This Along
by Vibe on Wed 11th Apr 2007 19:29 in reply to "RE: Knew This Along"
Vibe Member since:
2007-03-12

Personally I invested in BeOS, Zeta and Haiku, and I don't see why I should follow other people claims on what I should or shouldn't invest into based on hunches or predictions or feelings. If you had any proof of yellowTabs wrongdoings (or anyone else for that matter) you should of come out. But you didn't. So blaming OSNews is kind of a Null point.

Crap. There were plenty of reasons for reasonable suspicion and OS News could have asked for proof from Bernd Korz. They didn't. Not only that, they published topics which misrepresented the reality of copyright law, and personally attacked people who disagreed.

Lets face it, Vasper, you're not exactly Mr. Clean with your illegal distribution of copyrighted material and advocacy of views on copyright that don't accord with reality. You're as dirty as anyone and should learn from Bernd Korz's mistake and quit before something really stupid happens.

Edited 2007-04-11 19:33

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RE: Knew This Along - not full story
by fyysik on Wed 11th Apr 2007 18:48 in reply to "Knew This Along"
fyysik Member since:
2006-02-19

In beginning, OsNews editor-in-chief Eugenia was rather very very sceptial about all that Zeta affair.
But then changed her mind sometimes. And then OsNews tried to push Zeta's logo for all BeOS-related news, be it BeOS itself or HaikuOS/OpeneOS or whatelse.
But then again they took more safe and moderate position.

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vasper Member since:
2005-07-22

A decision about a group logo is hardly any... strong position..

As I remember, BeOS was long dead and Haiku didn't have a name yet and news were scarce from the OpenBeOS camp while Zeta seemed promising.


This is the down side as I see it. It is most unfortunate that any code written for Zeta is at best tainted now, even things that don't use original BeOS code, but are completely new like the SATA drivers.

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