Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Apr 2007 22:12 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Even more Haiku news today. Oliver Ruiz Dorantes, who will be monitoring GSoC student Salvatore Benedetto coming summer, has started work on what will become an office suite for Haiku. His blog already shows the first screenshots of the project. He is seeking for help on the project, so if you have the experience, feel free t help him out. Also, a new batch of icons has been added to Haiku.
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Tyr.
Member since:
2005-07-06

Could he? Maybe, but it certainly wouldn't be less work. I have not personally worked on Open Office code but I have laid eyes on some of it and until you do it is impossible to fathom just how fricken LARGE it is. Its huge. 400MB of source code consisting of more than 30,000 individual source files and 9,000,000 line of code.


A better bet would be something like abiword which had a port that was abandoned IIRC. That way a lot of the grunt work would be done.

Personally I think Haiku developers should be focussing on stuff people are going to need directly after R1 is released : up to date & stable firefox port, decent mail client, instant messenger, samba, itunes-like mp3 player. Especially the firefox port would need to be top-notch : promote that along with Google docs & spreadsheet.

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tonestone57 Member since:
2005-12-31

A better bet would be something like abiword which had a port that was abandoned IIRC. That way a lot of the grunt work would be done.

Zeta team was working on Abiword 2.4.x, though it never was completed. I believe it is around 85% done. ( I was able to compile it on BeOS & Zeta, but needs more work ).

Abiword is around 130MB for the source vs OpenOffice which is 400MB. In my opinion, Abiword is the best choice for word processor & should be easier to get working on Haiku ( or BeOS ).

Abiword Source For Haiku / Zeta ( svn )
http://dev.osdrawer.net/scm/?group_id=15

Next, for spreadsheet. There is Sum-It which is fairly good, but would need to be updated & bug fixed.

http://sum-it.sourceforge.net/

That gets things started with very good word processor & spreadsheet programs.

Doing an office suite from scratch is lots of work and will require lots of time to do. I think it better to focus instead on Abiword & Sum-It which can get done faster & will work well too.

Edited 2007-04-18 01:34

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tonestone57 Member since:
2005-12-31

I'll also add that; Abiword & Sum-It, for Haiku, could be completed in about 6 months time. They definately could be ready in that timeframe.

OpenOffice is a bad choice, because:
1. Source code is 400MB ( lots & lots of code to work with )
2. Uses lots of Xwindows stuff that has to be rewritten.
3. And the java stuff too.

OpenOffice is almost as tough as creating an OS with the amount of code it has.

Porting it over to Mac OS was easier because, if I'm not mistaken, Mac OS X uses BSD type ( compatible ) kernel & Xwindow system ( ie: OS X is similar / close to BSD; So easier to get OO on it ).

Haiku has posix compliance, but the Xwindow ( and Java? - maybe have Java for Haiku by then? ) code would have to be rewritten. Not easy to do.

The easiest stuff to port to Haiku ( or BeOS ) is applications / programs that are posix compliant and either use console or SDL ( ie: Xwindow stuff needs lots more work to do - code has to be rewritten ).

Edited 2007-04-18 01:49

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aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

i don't think it really matters what you think HIS time is best spent on. He's donating his time to what he thinks will be best. Abiword + Sum-it isn't that.

Need you guys be so critical of what he's doing? He wants to do what he thinks would be a good word processor for Haiku. This isn't zeta, this isn't BeOS anymore. This is Haiku. Let Haiku have it's own.

If you think firefox is more important, you work on firefox, you work on samba or whatever else you think is more important. Leave this guy alone.

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aesiamun Member since:
2005-06-29

Yeah that's what Haiku needs for R1...an iTunes like MP3 player...

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Tyr. Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah that's what Haiku needs for R1...an iTunes like MP3 player...


No need to be sarcastic. Haiku is a desktop oriented OS, this means providing apps people use frequently at home. Everyone has mp3's on their pc, everyone needs a decent app to play and manage them. This is suppposed to be a media-os right ?

Look at what people use and try to fill that need. To me this means browser > mail > mp3. And I don't think that people after years of using iTunes and its clones on linux will be satisfied with a 90's era player.

Of course this is all just IMHO.

Edit : to clarify I'm talking about third party apps, not suggesting that any of this should be done by the Haiku-os people. They've enough on their hands.

Edited 2007-04-18 09:58 UTC

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Earl Colby pottinger Member since:
2005-07-06

Look again, Haiku's MediaPlayer looks like it will end up features found in SoundPlay.

MediaPlayer already supports most sound formats and a number of video formats, I expect streaming to end up added to the mix soon.

As good as ITunes? No. A 90's music player? No-Way.

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