Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Apr 2007 22:12 UTC
BeOS & Derivatives Even more Haiku news today. Oliver Ruiz Dorantes, who will be monitoring GSoC student Salvatore Benedetto coming summer, has started work on what will become an office suite for Haiku. His blog already shows the first screenshots of the project. He is seeking for help on the project, so if you have the experience, feel free t help him out. Also, a new batch of icons has been added to Haiku.
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RE[3]: Why not
by lucky13 on Wed 18th Apr 2007 22:46 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Why not"
lucky13
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2007-04-01

Widespread adoption is a bad goal to have early on and very unrealistic; you end up trying to be all things to all people and get nowhere.

Being aloof by catering to the desires of a small group would also insure that its development (a) stagnates and (b) becomes so insular and narrow that outside interest can never develop. Worse, if it's too "quirky" or novel, it stands very little chance of being adopted outside its development group.

BeOS had the same goal with respect to media content you want Haiku to have. How'd that work out? Not so good last time I checked. Funny that.

Also, filmmakers don't live their lives in vacuums. Haiku shouldn't be developed in one. Focusing on too tight a niche can be as poor a strategy as being too broad. Then you might be better off talking about an application instead of an entire operating system. And with all due respect, you're moving your goalposts back years rather than forward considering how many open source, Windows, and Mac applications are already standards in filmmaking.

Hats off to anyone willing to put time and energy into creating an app for Haiku

Hats off to anyone creating apps for any OS, especially ones that can and will be used (not to mention that can and will be useful).

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RE[4]: Why not
by Richard-LA on Thu 19th Apr 2007 01:38 in reply to "RE[3]: Why not"
Richard-LA Member since:
2007-04-17

Well, IMHO Be, Inc. failed because it didn't push hard enough on being a prime choice for media development, and it had a focus switch to being an Internet Appliance. Also, they went public which I think was a bad idea, and started their end.

I think comparing Be with Haiku doesn't work because Be's problem wasn't technology, but rather management decisions.

I don't accept the argument about "standards" in filmmaking, or anything. Plus all the indy filmmakers I know are pretty much living in a vaccuum, give them something better and they'll use it without question. Anyway, if one allowed standards to prevent developing new applications then we wouldn't get anywhere interesting.

Haiku will be the source of inspiration for people to write great software that sets new standards. Today's moaners and naysayers will thank the Haiku developers later on ;)

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RE[5]: Why not
by lucky13 on Thu 19th Apr 2007 16:12 in reply to "RE[4]: Why not"
lucky13 Member since:
2007-04-01

IMHO Be, Inc. failed because it didn't push hard enough on being a prime choice for media development

They did. That didn't catch on. It wasn't a better mousetrap -- at least the market didn't think so.

I think comparing Be with Haiku doesn't work because Be's problem wasn't technology, but rather management decisions.

I think the two went hand-in-hand. You can't catch a wave of mass support without applications. As much as I respect the design and function of microkernel OSes like BeOS and even Minix, most people are never going to use them without applications that rival (or, IMO, exceed) what's already available.

I don't accept the argument about "standards" in filmmaking

Maybe you should try. If you can't build a better mousetrap, if you can't convince others you've built a better mousetrap, they're not going to use it. Not when they already have useful, functional, feature-rich mousetraps. Geeks will care about API, kernelspace, etc. Users will only care about what it can do for them, and if it does it better than what they've already time and training.

Haiku will be the source of inspiration...

People find inspiration in all kinds of crazy crap already. I don't think Haiku is a better mousetrap, so I can't share your lofty expectations.

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