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RE[2]: Somewhat damning with faint praise...
by systyrant on Tue 1st May 2007 04:04
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RE[3]: Somewhat damning with faint praise...
by Wowbagger on Wed 2nd May 2007 00:45
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2005-11-16
"This is not so much about the strength of Windows's security, as it is the weakness of OSX's. Apple just put a Mac compatibility layer and a Mac GUI over an OS they never created nor maintained, which is a large part of why Apple's security has dropped since Apple switched to the Mach microkernel: they literally don't know their own OS anymore. "
Why are you trying to talk about something that you don't know!!!
Do you just realize tha the code base of OS X is a code base that was largely developed, tested by the sane team who built NextStep which itself is the code bas of OS X? Do you realize that the people behind NextStep are most of them still the minds behind OS X? Do you realize that the main architect of MACH (Avie Tevanian) was the main architect of OS X, and was the leader of the OS X team and software team at Apple until OS X 10.3? Do you realize that the present OS X team leader, Bertrand Serlet, is also a key architect of both NextStep and OS X?
Given that, you come here to say us that Apple does not know its own OS..... Do you just realize how silly this sounds?
"My ITEC 120 professor uses an OSX laptop in class (instead of the networked computer which uses Windows), and it has crashed outright three times this semester, as well as other strange bugs in the execution of normal tasks (program windows that appear off the screen, pinwheels of death that still work like a normal mouse, a media player that once opened itself, &c.). Our school's Windows-based computers are three to four years old and come loaded with malware and other things that load themselves on startup, and they are still more stable than his year-old OSS-only laptop. "
Well no machine can be completely safe to get some issues, your professor has an issue with his machine. This would concern a small amont of macs, i had several macs running OS X for months, 27/7 without any reboot. Try to do that with XP or Vista, ......
From the article:
"I have found the code quality, at least in terms of security, to be much better overall in Vista than Mac OS X 10.4. It is obvious from observing affected components in security patches that Microsoft’s Security Development Lifecycle (SDL) has resulted in fewer vulnerabilities in newly-written code. I hope that more software vendors follow their lead in developing proactive software security development methodologies."
I really have to laugh when i read such thing. I mean, if this would be true ok, fine, but this really does not fit to the reality. Look at the fact, if the Vista code quality is good in terms of security, how a hell could the ANI bug affect Vista too? This bug was tracked from Vista back to Windows 2000!
Also what about this:
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,2069209,00.asp
Or this:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS07-021.mspx
Or this:
http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_vul28025.htm
And so on, so that's nice to say that Vista is more secure, but in reality this is just a joke...
Alo even Micorost does not believe either in the security of its OS:
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070430-microsofts-guru-malwa...
What a world !!!!!