Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 8th May 2007 13:19 UTC
Windows Months go, I reviewed Windows Vista, and concluded: "All in all, I am impressed by Windows Vista [...]. Windows Vista is better than XP, and definitely more than just an improved look as many say." After 5 months of usage, it is time to put that statement into perspective.
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Here's the deal...
by celt on Tue 8th May 2007 14:29 UTC
celt
Member since:
2005-07-06

Those that live in the Microsoft world are stuck, and can't/won't go elseware. Why? Lemmings menatlity. They will complain. moan and groan about delays, schedule, insecurity, performance and cost. And yet regardless of how bad the product is, how poorly it's implemented or whatever negative constraints it places on them, they will continue to use these products. After sometime they just accept it - much like a bad relationship, dissatisfaction in a job, the crashing, the lockups, system freezes, malware, virusus, yada, yada, yada. When the next product comes along, you'll do this all over again...dissapointment, then acceptance.

Shame really...computing was and can be fun. I use a system that is more than thirty years old, gets better like fine wine with age and does more than my imagination allows. Berkeley UNIX...

http://www.freebsd.org/

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RE: Here's the deal...
by walterbyrd on Tue 8th May 2007 15:12 in reply to "Here's the deal..."
walterbyrd Member since:
2005-12-31

>>Those that live in the Microsoft world are stuck, and can't/won't go elseware. Why? Lemmings menatlity.<<

IMO: that's not why. Think about what an OS does - it allows you to run your apps, and use your hardware. Without apps and drivers, what good is an OS? How many people run an OS just to run the OS?

And please understand, there are a lot more apps than just web-browsers, and mp3 players. There are tons, and tons, of specialized 3rd party apps that only run on windows.

It doesn't matter how good an OS may be. If people are not confident that the OS will run all the apps they will need - now and in the future - then that OS has no chance.

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RE: Here's the deal...
by Phloptical on Tue 8th May 2007 19:51 in reply to "Here's the deal..."
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

You must be a gamer, then.....

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RE[2]: Here's the deal...
by Googol on Tue 8th May 2007 20:07 in reply to "Here's the deal..."
Googol Member since:
2006-11-24

Well, I stay with (also) Windows for games. Also, all today's Linux users are former Windows users, so they are not as stuck as you suggest.

Also, I had to go back to my mates Windows laptop in order to use this MS office, because OOo can't do a very, very, VERY simple thing I need: That is printing power point slides , 3 on a page with commenting lines next to it - come on guys, what's up?!

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RE[3]: Here's the deal...
by cyclops on Tue 8th May 2007 20:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Here's the deal..."
cyclops Member since:
2006-03-12

I'm actually shocked; shocked that OOo cannot print a slide layout with commenting lines next to the handout page.

http://openoffice.blogs.com/openoffice/2005/11/printing_handou.html

oh you can. In fact its a template you can set it up as you want. Although I have to admit its a disgrace that its not the default template. I'm glad that you spent all that money on Office instead of say a wii + 10 games on Office to do something that took seconds to search for on google.

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RE[3]: Here's the deal...
by Googol on Wed 9th May 2007 14:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Here's the deal..."
Googol Member since:
2006-11-24

You guys can be really stupid around here at times, do you know that?? No, that's why I have to come back at times and tell you about it so that you can better yourselves. Why am I getting modded down on that perfectly valid observation?

It is not that the function is in your face or anything. After all, someome saw necessity to make a blog entry out of the issue, and the answer to it starts like this:

"Steve's question is in regard to one of the most unnecessarily complicated tasks in OpenOffice.org."

You, see, someone is in agreement with me that this is a very, very, VERY simple thing. Every student on this planet who actually does his homework relies on this function where slides are supplied.

Well, if you print in Windows, you get the options of the printer menu all the same, everywhere. In MS office, the printer menu offers the option, for OOo it doesn't - it is a fair assumption that you cannot do it. Actually, I suspected it might have to do with some sort of limitation of my 10 USD Canon printer driver, and so I went to university with potable OOo, but no luck. I did't buy office, I said I used my neighbour's machine, or did I not..? And in turn, you get modded up for that. Another good point in time to also point out again how wanting the modding function is aroun here, or how little you know how to use it.

Thanks for the link.

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I don't get it either
by prayforwind on Tue 8th May 2007 20:24 in reply to "Here's the deal..."
prayforwind Member since:
2006-01-04

I know people who are now saving for a more expensive computer so they can run Vista... they're afraid of being "left behind".

I really don't understand this... MS products -hide- the way computers work from their users (example... shortcuts, "hide file extensions for registered file types", etc.) So how is updating Windows going to keep one from becoming technically "left behind"?

The author mentions "free", but not "freedom". As in the freedom of knowlege one gains the right to by using free software. This fact alone would stop me from using Vista, no matter how well it works.

IMHO too many of us are either brand-blinded into believing Windows is the only way, too dumb to think beyond the logo, too afraid to make the attempt to gain back control of the computer technology that's changing our lives (mostly for the worse), or simply too downtrodden and apathetic to care.

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RE: Here's the deal...
by keith.unix on Tue 8th May 2007 23:46 in reply to "Here's the deal..."
keith.unix Member since:
2007-05-08

The things you said should be put in a manifesto of some kind. I agree 100%

(I commented from my IBM T40 Thinkpad running FreeBSD 6.1)

Go BSD!!!

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RE[2]: Here's the deal...
by celt on Wed 9th May 2007 01:18 in reply to "RE: Here's the deal..."
celt Member since:
2005-07-06

For sure...T42 w/ FreeBSD 6.2

Wonderful system isn't it? Thirty years of bright people creating sensible software to solve problems and get your work done.

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