Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 9th May 2007 10:08 UTC, submitted by Ford Prefect
Java Sun Microsystems has announced the release of an open-source version of its Java Development Kit for Java Platform Standard Edition. Sun has contributed the software to the OpenJDK Community as free software under the GNU GPLv2. Sun also announced that OpenJDK-based implementations can use the JCK (Java SE 6 Technical Compatibility Kit) to establish compatibility with the Java SE 6 specification. OpenBSD has already started importing the release.
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Open Source is not a verb
by lucke on Wed 9th May 2007 10:30 UTC
lucke
Member since:
2007-01-07

Reading the title just reminded me of that ;-)

Open Source is not a verb:
http://www.newsforge.com/articles/06/11/04/0457205.shtml?tid=31

Edited 2007-05-09 10:34

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Open Source is not a verb:

Sigh. I hate language purists. Maybe someone ought to tell them that the contemporary English vocabulary consists largely of French, Latin, and other non-English words. Less than 25% comes from 'original' old-English.

Edited 2007-05-09 11:03

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frood Member since:
2005-07-06

Couldn't agree more. It's one of my pet hates. The word "Google" is now a verb in the same way.

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memson Member since:
2006-01-01

Thom, I think that you will find that it is not hard to write in English and have no words that do not come from Old English or at least words with Germanic roots*. Your thoughts are true in some ways, but not always. The thing with English is that there are often two words for any bit of it. This then makes folks think that the "Latin/French" words have taken over. Well, as you can see, they have not.

* the bug bear being that old Norse roots often look like Old English ones.

However, there you go, a readable paragraph with minimal Latinate influence.

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Manyon Member since:
2006-02-04

well maybe open source wasn't a verb... languages are constantly changing and developing through common usage. If your use of the language clearly communicates your message then it has succeeded in its primary function. Considering the international effects of the internet and the popularity of sms messaging i'd say the language purists are going to be in for a bit of a bumpy ride as it seems to me that languages are changing more rapidly now (on a global scale) than ever.

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RE: Open Source is not a verb
by MamiyaOtaru on Wed 9th May 2007 12:23 in reply to "Open Source is not a verb"
MamiyaOtaru Member since:
2005-11-11

Once upon a time, neither were host, fool, switch and many others. Verbification happens. Just as we can outsource something, we can open source something.

More on topic: I'm pretty curious to see what happens with GCJ, Kaffe and others now. Will they fold?continue on their own way? Appropriate bits and pieces (seems like that could be harder than at first glance), appropriate Sun's stuff wholesale? Harmony of course can't do the last two. Wonder if that had anything to do with Sun's choice of license.

OTish again. Harmony is an Open Source java, yet can't use (if they wish to retain the same Apache license throughout their codebase anyway) Sun's GPLd stuff. Could we more properly say that Sun Free Softwared Java? (verbifying again) ;)

Edited 2007-05-09 12:30 UTC

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Could we more properly say that Sun Free Softwared Java? (verbifying again) ;)

They Free Softwared it after being heavily Stallmanned for years. ;}

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jpick Member since:
2007-04-16

I'm pretty curious to see what happens with GCJ, Kaffe and others now.


I can only speak for Kaffe (since I run the project) - it's going to continue on. The people on the mailing list want it to continue on. It's still probably the easiest virtual machine with a JIT to port to exotic platforms.

And Dalibor Topic (the top Kaffe developer) is only the OpenJDK governance board now! :-)

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RE: Open Source is not a verb
by tryfan on Wed 9th May 2007 12:29 in reply to "Open Source is not a verb"
tryfan Member since:
2006-12-16

Of course it's a verb, if it's used as a verb. Good or bad, that's for history to say.
I remember when I was young that the word "kodak" was sometimes used as a verb - as in "to kodak something".
History wasn't too kind on that one; let's see what it has to say about "out-sorce" and "open-source".

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RE: Open Source is not a verb
by tristan on Wed 9th May 2007 13:49 in reply to "Open Source is not a verb"
tristan Member since:
2006-02-01

Reading the title just reminded me of that ;-)

Open Source is not a verb:
http://www.newsforge.com/articles/06/11/04/0457205.shtml?tid=31


Remember the old saying: "There is no noun that cannot be verbed"

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RE: Open Source is not a verb
by zerohalo on Wed 9th May 2007 19:40 in reply to "Open Source is not a verb"
zerohalo Member since:
2005-07-26

WT*? Is this an English grammar site? I thought I was here to read tech news.

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RE: Open Source is not a verb
by sbergman27 on Wed 9th May 2007 19:58 in reply to "Open Source is not a verb"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Yeah. I thought that article was useless filler when I read it last year and my thoughts on that matter haven't changed.

"Open-source" makes a very handy transitive verb, thank-you-very-much. It improves the clarity and conciseness of the language. And if overly-pedantic grammar experts don't like it then they can email me and I will tell them in private just what they can do with their silly complaints. ;-)

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