Linked by Eugenia Loli on Thu 10th May 2007 01:53 UTC, submitted by editingwhiz
Red Hat Red Hat announced a new client product, Red Hat Global Desktop, at its annual Red Hat Summit tradeshow in San Diego. This move is designed, in part, to compete with Novell's SUSE Linux Enterprise 10 Desktop, which has achieved success in business desktop markets, and with Ubuntu 7.04, which will soon appear on Dell PCs. Some reporting about this can also be found at the company's magazine. Update: Elsewhere, talking security with Red Hat's Mark Cox.
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RE[5]: No mp3 support?
by chemical_scum on Fri 11th May 2007 13:53 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: No mp3 support?"
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The fact you cannot do any productive work when the network goes down is all the evidence we need for making it clear that the Desktopless Desktop isn't a good paradigm. I can luckily keep working even if the network goes down (and it does because the IT-guys are incompetent - according to me, my classmates and our teachers ;)

Even if I had my documents locally available I really wouldn't be able to do much on them without access to our databases or the web. Our IT guys are not incompetent, some of them have learned how to set up RH servers in what used to be a totally MS shop so the network only goes down when Bell Canada drill holes through the cables which is fortunately quite rare.

That paradigm has existed all the time computers have existed. It's known as the Desktop paradigm

You must be too young to remember that computers existed before the desktop paradigm. The first computers I worked with were DEC PDP8's and PDP11's no desktop there, we had text based terminals like VT100's. The desktop paradigm was invented at the Palo Alto labs of Xerox and purloined by Apple for Lisa and then the first Mac's, in the original concept this was primarily a free standing system.

As far as MS goes the original MSDOS , Win 1.x and 2.x environments were originally for free standing systems with any network connectivity grafted on as third party applications. At that time it was the Unix Workstation environment that was naturally built around the network with NFS etc.

I still remember the shock going from grad school in a university environment where every thing was connected together via NFS to a small scientific start up company with about 30 free standing PC's running DOS and no network.

A new paradigm is beginning to emerge in part because the corporate intranet has become more than the pretty toy it was just five years ago and the new dream it was ten to twelve years ago. But really it is the total of the network based technologies that is downgrading the need for "fat client" desktops.

We have a global corporate portal, a local (national) portal and a laboratory portal. We use Citrix widely and Oracle via the Browser/Java client. We have an increasing deployment of diskless fanless thin clients. However Windows has not adjusted to the new paradigm. We don't need bloatware like Vista to power our desktops.

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